The Cape Verdean community in Massachussets is once again crying the killing of one of its son; headlines like this were all over the American media this week, Man killed outside Randolph nightclub

" Joseph Lopes, 23, of Boston's Dorchester neighborhood, was among clubgoers who spilled out of the Copa Grande as the Randolph club was shutting down around 2 a.m.
Lopes was shot several times in the parking lot, toward the back of the club, which is on Main Street near the town center. The shooter apparently targeted Lopes, said Norfolk District Attorney William R. Keating.
"From the circumstances that surrounded the incident, it appears very likely that this was not a random shooting," he said.
Witnesses saw the suspect fleeing. Keating declined to say whether the man was on foot or in a car.
Keating said police described the shooting as the first street killing in Randolph in about 13 years, although there have been other more recent domestic killings in the town." ( Boston.com)

This is one of the dozen cases of shootings and violence involving the Cape Vedean youth that has not only give us a bad name in the media but also has cause great suffering and pain to families and the CV community. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

What can we do to reduce and stop violence and shootings among our youth? Please, let us know your suggestion!

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Hello,
I was deeply saddened by the message about the tragedy in our
community. I send condolences to the families and freinds of the late
Joseph Lopes who is a distant relative of mine. Over and over again our
community has suffered the pain of losing those close to us. I don't
know the details of the incident, but I do know that its a great loss,
as is every loss to our community. We need to cometogether and solve
the problems of our community. This like so many before should be a
time where we not only pray for the soul of the departed but where we
come together to win back our community and its morabeza. We need to
all come together and use our talents, our energies to build a better
and stronger community, to organize and motivate ourselves and our
youth. one teeneager from roxbury said to me a few weeks ago 'you who
come to these good schools you should do more for us in the street'.
In our land we knew famine and hardships, we knew partida and that
experience of sao tome. Today we're in the wealthiest country, each of
us with a talent a fortune at our hands. lets use all we have for our
community. our community needs us, I hope we can only come together
stronger through CVC Unido. I hope to wake up one day and see my
cousins in better schools, to see the kids in the streets occupying
themselves with college, work, sports and learning their culture. I
hope to one day hear less and less of acts of violence among our ppl,
HOpe to one day see an organized, safe and prosperous community.
Uniao Faz Forca,
Tony

Tony, I strongly agree with you. The CV community definitely needs to come together more and find better ways to stop violence among us. Lots have been done but much more needs to be accomplished. However, the key point is getting the whole community actively involved in fighting for our betterment.

In the wake of the senseless tragedies that have impacted our community over the years, we, no one else, must take a stand and be willing to say "enough is enough" and bring to justice the few individuals that continue to tarnish our image; we must not look the other way, for every life gone is a tragedy. Yes, lets work cohesively together, but with local leaders, elected officials and, yes, law enforcement. You are not a "snitch", you are a Capeverdean who is tired of your name being tossed worthlessly around in the media. It's all of our responsibility to "work" together. There are only a handful of people, our people, that need to be identified and brought to justice, otherwise the senseless killings will unfortunately continue. Keep calling your Mayor, your city councillor, organizations and yes, keep calling the police every time someone is ruining our name. Remember, information leads to arrests, which leads to prosecution and incarceration....these are the steps that "we" have to take, regardless of how difficult as it may be......

This has to stop.We're living in the 21th century and we're living in a civilized world now.
It seems some youngsters of capeverdean descent are determined to mar the capeverdean community with drugs and killings among themselves.

The more we keep silent, the more the message goes out that another Capeverdean life lost to the street, doesn't matter. People know who, what, when, where and even why. Send an anonymous letter to the police, if you are afraid to step forwrad. Cut letters out of a magazine, if you are paranoid, but tell!

Mothers cry. Families and friends mourn and the community keeps silent. Retaliation doesn't bring anyone back, it only hurts 'us' more. I agree ... it's an old school menatlity that must end. Enough! Pas

please let the entire community be aware that it is the small contribution that we all make that puts it all together..and bring the changes for a better community. we all know that someone's mom and dad who is struggling and is reaching out blindly unaware of what's at the other end..We and all of us that are aware should be and feel responsible to bring the change to our wonderful community.. and make it reality.

Why don't the Haitians toot up the town the way the CVs do? About as many Haitians as CVs in Boston, right?

Why do Haitians seem to keep the peace, go to school, work hard and get on with building a life instead of firing off guns all of the time?

Just an observation.

The biggest problem of the CV community is the people's attitude towards these criminals. The Capeverdeans harbour and even go to the point to support them. For example, most of Kreoles tend to condescend to the victims and say the same thing: he was a nice guy.
‘‘Most of the young men ... say he was the nicest guy you could ever want to meet,'' said one, who declined to give his name, shortly before the group got into several cars and left." (http://ledger.southofboston.com/articles/2005/01/31/news/news02.txt)
I sure feel sorry for Joseph Lopes and his family. But if he was a nice guy or " um santo de rapaz" why was he shot? Obviously he must have been involved in something wrong; thus, he should not be a nice guy!

However, the worst thing is that the Capeverdeans do not cooperate with the police. To illustrate, "most of the young men declined to answer when asked about Joseph Lopes, 23, of Dorchester, who was gunned down early yesterday morning in the parking lot of the nightclub at 326 N. Main St." (http://ledger.southofboston.com/articles/2005/01/31/news/news02.txt).
If you guys want the crime to stop in your community, you HAVE to be fearless and tell the truth to the police. I'm quite sure every one knows who these bad apples are, why did they kill each other, and where they hide. So,Capeverdeans, the solution for these crimes is on your hands!

Finally, you Capeverdeans, have to stop being in the defensive and proactively fight this crime. I have noticed that many CV Creoles do not recognize the seriousness of youth violence among them. In other words, they always find a way to justify it and kind of support these criminals. Capeverdeans, you have a HUGE AND HORRENDOUS PROBLEM IN YOUR COMMUNITY: YOUTH VIOLENCE! that is giving you a bad name in America. So, You have to stop condescending and feeling sorry for these criminals and realize they don't care about your community neither love your people. The are really BAD and EVIL GUYS. So they don't deserve to be among you. You shouldn't harbour or be friends with them. You should watch them and anonimously denounce them to the police.

I wish the best to the CV community.
Thank you!

J.P, a friend of CV people.

It's about respect for life and understanding what it is not to have had.
Too many young people have no understanding of the struggles Caboverdianos have gone through. A huge part of that is because we don't teach our children our history. We don't teach them about the strength of the root from where they come and so they get filled with the foolishness of the world.

They have no concept or value in who they are and where they come from. They aren't made to stay connected to and aware of the
homeland struggles. It's great to say I'm CV and talk about the beauty of the land, but there is no real grasp of the history, culture and continued needs of the people ...THEIR people ....OUR people.

Here in the EUA, they think it's all about the bling. They aren't held accountable for their actions, because we as a community, don't make them accountable. Some of them do need to be locked up. Why does the community 'protect' murderers and other predators? Is it because we don't value ourselves? The Haitians don't go for it.

They collectively understand the sacrifices
made. There is crime in the Haitian community, but nowhere near the level that is in the CV community. They know that one person makes it harder for the next, so they don't tolerate it ... and neither should we. We've been here much longer but have nowhere near the level of participtaion in the political, social or economical fiber of the city.

We talk pride ... but we don't walk it. We have to love ourselves enough to do what it takes ... learn English, get the education and the knowledge needed to be at the decision making tables.

When I take a step, I move me forward; when you take a step with me, you move us forward. Pas

I disagree with the snitch program that is used to cut deals with the criminals (throw back the small fish and concentrate on the big ones). ``Lopes is a major, major player in the gang world…….,'' one police official said yesterday. Lopes, whose nickname was ``Mokes,'' had a long rap sheet “http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=66225&format=). My question is why was he still walking the same street as we are?

Sometimes those individuals retaliating are lost. What are we doing as the community to help the victim’s families and friends? If your loved one is murdered and you don't feel that the system (police) is doing much to solve the crime and catch and put away the murderer you may find the need to take matters into your own hands. I'm not saying that is the right thing to do. But sometimes you feel trapped with emotions and get caught up. It’s unfortunate because once you kill somebody there is no going back. We don't only need to focus on putting away our kids (people) when they retaliate. We need to be proactive and WE need to help to educate the victim’s families and friends why retaliation is not the answer and help them deal with THEIR LOSS. Give them reasons to believe they should leave it up to our judicial system and that everything that could possibly be done is being done and will continue to be done.
Deep down I can’t seem to believe Carlos did such a thing, but if (big if) he did I can only imaging what was going on in his head and the emotion and ect….. It’s a tragedy. I send condolences to both families.

No one thinks about the families of the victims..why does it have to be an eye for an eye? Its odd, because in some ways, we all can relate...when one kills or hurts someone close to us, our reaction is to seek revenge..and sometimes when your heart is to hurt, you see a blind rage, and IF IF Carlos did this, thats what he felt. He is a normal guy living a normal life or at least trying to, but to live it with agony with a lost brother...It is very hard on someone to never want to forget what was done to his loved one. I do not believe in the relaliation, but its reality. It has to stop. NOW. Our world only keeps getting larger, and we have to mold our new age children into knowing VIOLENCE IS NOT the answer. Put the GUNS down, take away the GRUDGES, and be real men...and save our community. PLEASE. It is just not worth it.

I think the entire community wants the same outcome, but we come out and say it differently. I agree with most comments here and i think its unfortunate that it takes a tragedy like this for people realize that we have a crisis in the community, and i want all who is posting suggestions and coments here of what should or has to be done to get involved. Be a mentor, be a neighbor, be a positive role model for our youth. You be supprised the little one does has a big impact. Lets organize and create somethng bigger then the problem we are facing now. I give lots of credits to all that is involved in improving lives of our people to all the CV organizations and leaders in the community especially the folks who organized the CV Alumni dinner, great initiative....keep up the good work.....

How to stop the violence in the CV community is a very short, but complicated question.
First I would like to acknowledge that there are many individuals working the community with our youth. I know you all you who I'm talking about and I hate to "preach to the choir." These heroes are working to prevent violence in their after school programs, sports teams and teen centers. The fruits of their labor are hard to notice in the thick fog of homicides and crime and all the newspaper articles that report them. The success is even more difficult to quantify, while it's so easy to pick up stats on the violence. But in the long run, we will notice their success, because the alumnae of these programs will be proof that these community workers are doing their job.

Second, we can NOT stop the violence, until we come together and really grasp the roots of the problems. I have my own ideas of what these problems are and they may not be what others think. Despite the differences of opinions and ideologies, we MUST have a forum (not just via email, although this is a good start) that brings everyone from across generations together to really begin a conversation and set up goals.

Third, once we can document the issues that led us into our present situation, then we can develop a plan to act.

Fourth, we must be careful not to make this as a task that will just drain everyone and lead to no success. As every human being, we always react when there is a crisis, we must try to react on a consistent schedule, not just when someone is murdered.

I hope that I have made some sense to everyone. I must get back to work. I look forward to participating in anything that grows out of these conversations.

May you find peace in everything you do. Peace and Blessings.

Because there are so many layers to the violence in the CV community, we must come together to understand why we have these problems. The only way that we can successfully stop the voilence is to use both intervention and prevention. We all know that these young men and women who are involved in the violence have young siblings and cousins who often times grow up in their foot steps. We must be constantly reaching out to these families and make sure their young have services and resources to keep them away from following their older family members. This is one way to break the cycle. Now back to my first comment about the many layers to the violence in our community. Just a quick study of most of the youth are are caught up in the system will tell you that they are also victims of this society. They are victims of a failed public educational system, violent television programs and parents who are simply not aware or don't know how to provide alternate paths. Then you have the ones who had educated parents and great opportunities, who also get caught up. Why? Well, they live in a culture where peer pressure is very real and they often times find themselves trapped in following the life styles that they have been raised to avoid.

Simple things we can all do to stop the violence?
In order to solve a large problem we must start small. Lets all start with our own families. Are we looking out for our younger siblings, cousins,neices and nephews? Are we involved in thier schools. Do we make calls to the our elected officials when we hear about cuts in educational programs and extra-curricular programs? Are we speaking to them about what they learn and how they enjoy it? Are we monitoring what they watch? Are we making sure their parents and caretakers know the negative impact that too much tv has? Are we encouraging them to be active in their community? Are we meeting their friends? Do we take the time to really talk to them and hear their frustrations? Do we take them out to the museums and parks? And finally are we practicing what we preach?

Murder in small communities is a vicious cycle. If this was a retaliatory act, then the alleged assassin could have really used a better public support system to keep him doing what he did. In most cases, the tables keep turning because no one gets the consolation that they need. It's a shame. We should really begin to recognize that depressiona and self hate is real in our community. If it weren't then these young men and women would value human life. They don't love themeselves and have a hard time dealing with pain, because no one is supporting them. That's not to say that families don't support their sons and daughters, because CV parents do. I just know that it is difficult being a person of color in this country, and our community is not immune. We need more integrity and less jealousy.

So, what's the Cape Verdean community in Boston doing to help ? Have we forgot about this problem again ? Are we waiting for the next young man to be killed and have our bad reputation and shame on the media again ?

Let me tell you people something, lopes was a cousin of mine i miss him dearly, no one is to say who he is and what he did was right or wrong, no one is angels, but everyone is equal. don't say you never did nothing wrong in your lifetime. he came out of jail and he had a possitive attitude. he was in the house taking care of his mother and working on the house. back in the day we all was doing wrong but we overcome that , we grow up to be men, we learned from our mistakes, and so did he. and for those that say they don't think that carlos did it and have a big if about it .... well guess what he did it. R.I.P JOSEPH LOPES. 1 LOVE FROM YOUR FAMZ & FREINDZ

acima de tudo nu tem q educa nos filhos e nos cabeca pa nu pode tem medjor comunidade!!e ca so quelincedente li q dja conteci dja conteci mais otos por isso nu tem q tenta ser mais educado possivel!!

Why would repeated murders be considered mania in white communities, but we nearly ignore them in our own? Retaliation does not count as a way of paying attention to these crimes. That is immoral. If Mr. Lopes was a known criminal prior to the shooting, it is not okay that he was out in public. Nor is it okay that he was killed in retaliation. However, if Lopes did indeed end people's lives during his lifetime, why did it take 2 years for the newspapers to publish it? I know that everyone involved in these crimes had caring, compassionate, sides to them. What makes them snap?
How can you love and help mom out one day and dance with death the next? There is a psychological condition beneath all of this. Manic-depression. Not very surprising if you live a life full of risk, gangs, and violence. Something needs to be done...we're serially killing each other. This is ridiculuously insane and self hatred.

If the Cape Verdean community does not solve the problem of gang violence NOW, the are in serious trouble: they have free HARDCORE CRIMINALS AND PSICOTICS living among them who will be thrist to kill others without mercy, and will keep killing in every opportunity they find. You Cape Verdeans need to take serious steps NOW to stop these MANIACS!

I just wanted to give a special shout out to all my cape verdean peeps. May God Bless you all and keep you nice and safe.

The World always seems to turn
but you always seem to stay still
my heart is filled with contemt, my soul aches
for things unexplained
As i lay I begin to think
why is everything sinking
we should stay as one
lets have fun and be at peace
feast your eye on a creola with intelligence
honor, love and obedience.


keep up the good work forCV!

Excellent, Crioula! I'm feeling it!

There are crimes in communities of every nation of the world. Everyone of these communities are trying to minimize crimes. And the way kids are brought up is definitely one of the factors in combating crime. Sacrifice is the key. Do not buy that 2nd car; do not buy ridiculously expensive shoes and clothes; do not buy the latest of gadgets and stuff!!!!. Use the money to take your kids to a ball game, a play, museums, family vacations. Involve them in after school activities such as dance classes, music classes, sports, art etc.

From day, one through example, show them that "stuff" (material things) are not important that sacrifices made earlier will bring gains through out life. The best things you can do are actually free or have minimum cost. For example, did you know that in the summer your kids could learn to sail for $1.00 each time they participate at the Charles River (so it was when my kids did it). For no cost you can go to the park and play soccer or basket ball with your kids. For no cost you can go to the mountain and hike. You can organize kids into soccer teams and play against each other. Library is a free great place for kids to sit quietly and read.

Television and computers like anything else it can be distractive if not used properly. Parents must limit the amount of time kids spend in front of the TV and computers. My philosophy is why would I sit and watch people do things hours on end when I could be doing something constructive myself.

People coming new from Cabo Verde will not of course have the insight to even begin to know how to get their kids involved. And this is where the communities, schools, and families comes in. The Government should have a program where every new emigrant would be schooled and shown the ropes of the society they are about to enter. This will cost less then prison and foster care.

I hope the words above echoe loud and wide throughout our community because those are things and values we need to develop among us. Unfortunately, many Cape Verdeans come here and become too materialistic, trying to compete against each other on who will drive the best car, wear the most expensive clothes or have the finest furniture in their home; but they forget the in America everything has a price. And the price they pay is working long hours, overtime, 2 or more jobs, coming home late and tired and not having enough time to educate their kids.

So, who educate their kids then?
The crapy and violent TV shows that's glorified in American media, street gangters and wannabe thugs.

And what are the results this type of education bring?
- street and gang violence and murder
- school drop out
- kids without enough education to succeed in the American society
- large number of teen pregnancy
- High rate of HIV / AIDS & other sexually transmited diseases
- disfunctional families
- high number or divorce and infidelity due to lack of strong family and moral values
- large amount of crime, roberry, and fear in the community
- insecurity
- low or no interest of private business to invest or put their business stablishements in our communities due to much insecurity
- ... ( I wouldn't have enough room here to list all the consequences of the life style many of us have chosen).

So, Cape Verdean PARENTS, is it worthy to pay this high price of our irresponsible and materialistic life style when we can choose to live a simple life and provide better life for our kids?

Thank you Mario. It's great to gain insight about a highly debated lifestyle. I think that many of us try so hard to understand what's going on in our community, but it's not really until you hear it from the horse's mouth that you can have a better understanding. It takes a lot of courage for anyone directly involved to openly communicate with us about our concerns with violence. There's so much secrecy about petty crimes, that it just continues to perpetuate into a unhealthy lifestyle of depression> You maintain loyalty to people who really aren't your friends if they support such a risky way of life. I do encouarge you to post about how youth already involved in violence and street crimes can find their way out.

"Time to Reflect and Redirect My Anger"

To the people reading this:

After reading today’s newspaper I found myself feeling angry towards certain people, but I needed some time to reflect and see how I could direct my anger. There were two articles in particular that affected me. 1) Was the new bail and new trial set for Alexander Pring-Wilson and the 2nd was the millions of dollars distributed among the Churches to help kids and gang members exit the violence in our neighborhood. I would like to know what happened to the money since there is no program made available that we know of. There are no job training programs, camping trips, little league teams, or music and arts available to “at risk youths”, to keep them busy and help them to achieve their goals.

I wanted to thank the people responsible for Ping- Wilson’s release. I want to thank you for showing our children and the ignorant that still don’t know the difference between racism and class-ism how the white man can still kill a person of color and get away with it in the 21st century. I know this is not a race issue, but rather a money issue and the people in power are setting a bad example. Murder is murder.

I am a Cape Verdean that has been involved in gang warfare since 1990 while in my early teens. Now I’m 28 and far from being an ignorant teenager. I have been blessed to make it into adulthood unlike some of my friends. I used to think we were doing this to ourselves and we are to some degree, but now I can see that people with power and money are spinning that revolving door that we are caught in.

For the last year and half a group of us have been working together to solve our own problems without any funding. The only person that has been supportive of us for the last year has been Tina Chéry, the founder of the Louis D. Brown Peace Institute. Ever since I met her in 2004 I have watched her help more than half of the families of homicide victims here in Boston without judgment or funding. I’m a testament that she’s doing more for children and adults overcome violence, then any church in Boston; that’s a fact.

Mrs. Chéry has done more for us as a group than most of us will ever realize. She has met over twenty of my friends and encourages all of us to attend or finish school. She listens to us express our frustration and she tries to convince us to seek counseling for all the violence we have seen and been through. She provides us with resources we need to move forward as an individual and as a group.

We have only met with the African American Muslims and seen their attempt to help stop or slow down the violence. As far as Minister Eugene Rivers is concerned he is not fit to run any organization or church for that matter. Instead of preaching the good word he publicly threatens to physically harm us, which we would never allow. He called our parents disrespectful names and in return he lost respect from the Cape Verdean Community, as a minister and a man. All the money poured into these churches and yet the violence still continues leaving the same ministers confused and pointing fingers.

I strongly urge the public to look into the churches and how their money was used? And to the families of the late Mr. Colono, don’t give up on your struggle to find justice. The poor will always remain quiet and contempt with the little we have, until we start to work together and speak out against the injustice being done against us.

After hearing me speak to a youth group, I was encouraged to write a response about the CV violence [a community based organization].
I have been part of the violence here in Dorchester since 1991 in my early teens. I have been around gangs since I came to this country as a child in 1981. I would just like to give a quick history and what we are doing at the present time.
Before we started killing each other, we were fighting against the African Americans and Latino’s gangs that surrounded us. We we’re fighting to protect ourselves, because we we’re considered cowards so no one respected us at all! Something as simple as going to school without an altercation became impossible. Crack entered the inner city in the early 80’s. Now the combination of fighting and easy money fueled the creation of the Cape Verdean Posse (C.V.P). Those were the people I looked up to as a child and no one could have convinced me not to follow in their footsteps.
In my early teens myself along with several other youths well known today because of the media created another gang in Uphams Corner. We did loose friends but since they were not Cape Verdeans our community didn’t care about the problem until one CV youth murdered another, both were friends of mines. Before the death we were unified because of our C.V pride. After the death some of us started choosing sides between the murderer and the victim. I remained neutral, but was still tangled in our original fights.
Now several bullet holes and dead friends later we are starting to reconnect ourselves, using history and status. We have been doing this as a group since the death of Claudio Cardosa in 2004, a good kid taken away from us too soon. For many years I took my life for granted and was willing to die for a street, now I’m willing to die for a greater cause. I can only pray for forgiveness and hope that we have the support from the Cape Verdean Community as we travel this new path in life.

Mario –aka- Mizz
Veda de nos Kriolu
P.S
Pray & have hope in us.

Cape Verdeans in general are peaceful and loving people but few folks has put a dirty spot in our name here that we need to clean with positive community things.

However, the CV community will only start taking serious steps to help its youth and help their kids that are involved in violence when they admit they have a huge problem among themselves and that the vital key to solve them is PARTECIPATION; PARTECIPATION; PARTECIPATION.

Yes, we need to sit down around a table as community and talk about approaches we can take to reduce crime and gang violence in our neighborhood. And unfortunately, many of parents among us are too lazy to stop watching crap on TV, soccer, or stop drinking in bars and go to meetings and community events that deal with issues to help stop and prevent their kids from getting involved in violence. Cape Verdeans parents in general don't partecipate on their kids school activities, meetings or any other thing that does not involve partying or drinking.
It's a shame when they pay tickets to travel from Boston to Florida, or drive down to Pawtucket or Cape Cod to attend parties and festivals and are lazy enough to walk next door to places like CVC UNIDO, MAPS, Bowdoin Street Health Center, DSNI, Catholic Charities, Brockton Neighborhood Iniatiative and other communities organizations to attend community meetings or other events that has to do with the well being of their kids or their community.

What a F****** are we, Cape Verdeans parents, thinking?

STOP sleeping and BE REAL: we have HORRENDOUS PROBLEMS in our community: PARENTS APATHY, LACK OF FATHER FIGURE and LACK OF PARTICIPATION; these are the three real bad apples that need to be eradicated from among us.

And THEN we have the guts to ask WHY THE BOSTON POLICE HAS NOT SOLVED AT LEAST ONE OF MORE THAN 54 GANG RELATED MURDERS IN THE CAPE VERDEANS COMMUNITY, WHEN THE POLICE WAS ABLE TO SOLVE TO THE LAST DETAIL MOLLY BISHOP'S MURDER, A BLOND BLUE EYES SUBURBAN GIRL ADBUCTION - A CASE WHERE THE INVESTIGATORS INITIALLY HAD NO EVIDENCE TO TRACE THE MURDERER.

Do you want to know why?

The Boston Police Department doesn't care and are not interested in solving those murder cases at all BECAUSE YOU, CAPE VERDEANS PARENTS AND PEOPLE, DON'T CARE as well.
At least they will have always job to do and get paid to show up and make a murder report; but YOU, CAPE VERDEAN PARENTS, will keep living with an increasing pain, sorrow, lost of your loved ones, insecurity and fear among you that will ended up breaking apart your community here in Dorchester and drive you to dispair and extintion from this neighborhood- fact that would let many people in Boston happy!!!

Now YOU tell me, is it worthy paying that price when all we need to do is be there for our kids instead of being in bars or clubs all the time, be with our family instead of being somewhere else talking about soccer, be at community meetings and events instead of being partying and drinking somewhere else 24/7? IS IT WORTHY?"

Words of a MAD CV PARENT!