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St_antao · Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 370 Location: FR

So you agree that portugal is one of the most democratic countries in the world, so i am not talking about the past, you are talking about the past.

salah Mateus · Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 461

St_antao wrote:

So you agree that portugal is one of the most democratic countries in the world, so i am not talking about the past, you are talking about the past.

You know what. It is your arrogant personal conceit and attitude of being better then others or that you or Portugal is more than,it has been a vanity issue with you from the very begining. Overbearing.

What you fail to reliaze is the hurt that so many Caboverdianos have suffered over the years. We can forgive but that takes time but we can't forget so quickly. No one blames the Jews for not forgetting Hitler,or the U.S. for not forgetting about Pearl Harbor or the Indians not forgetting Wounded Knee or the Africans not forgetting,and so on. If you want better relationship you should remember and be more humble.

Braggadocio,impudent contemptuous; without any feelings of those who have suffered. I come from a poor family the bottom of the rung, my grand parents were not allowed to go to school and were peasant that was forced to live a wretched life,under the system in Cabo Verde. We were forced to leave and to escape the misery. We came to the U.S.To be cranberry pickers from sun up to sun down,our children were as slave labor in the U.S. Our people worked night and day for pittance and with that we sent money to help those families back on the Islands,we sent barrels of clothing dry food products. You wouldn't know anything about that. And as far as living high off the hog in the U.S. You don't know what the hell your talking about. So shut up.

Yes today,over 100 years Caboverdianos are doing much better and we are grateful for that chance. But poverty still is in the USA just as it is in Portugal or any other country. So this crap about being so great is not so great after all.
If I was young enough and had the money I would be next to you in a minute.
So buzz off.
I am so happy that PAIGC/PAICV and Amilcar Cabral has giving us a new day for a better way. Go jump in a lake.
Manu Salah

It was people like you that gave rise to our intense dislike the name calling and insults. You could never fight alone you were always like bullies
we shall never forget that kind of treatment. And I will tell you something else if you were here or I was in your company you would be in for an ass whipping. Now put that in your pipe and smoke it. M.F.

Call us any name you wish,but you wouldn't dare do it to our face,you are a slime ball and you continue with your brashness. I make no excuse for you without any remorse.

St_antao · Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 370 Location: FR

salah,

I can understand that you are hangry against the former portuguese regime, which was clearly a fascist system, with no freedom for most of the citizens, and furthermore for cv there was colonialism, nevertheless this colonialism was a "setelement colonialism".

Now, I can't understand that you criticize the social-democrat portugal of nowadays, which is one of the most democratic countries of the world. If capeverde was part of the nowadays social-democratic portugal...Capeverde would have nothing to fear.

The question is: Does Cape-verde need to go back into nowadays social-democrate Portugal?

salah Mateus · Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 461

St_antao wrote:

salah,

I can understand that you are hangry against the former portuguese regime, which was clearly a fascist system, with no freedom for most of the citizens, and furthermore for cv there was colonialism, nevertheless this colonialism was a "setelement colonialism".

Now, I can't understand that you criticize the social-democrat portugal of nowadays, which is one of the most democratic countries of the world. If capeverde was part of the nowadays social-democratic portugal...Capeverde would have nothing to fear.

The question is: Does Cape-verde need to go back into nowadays social-democrate Portugal?

I wouldn't trust you as far as I could spit.
Show me something different,help the poor CV's and PortugUeses people in Portugal. Tell the rich to give up something and stop bragging about the past all the time. Your full of it .

St_antao · Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 370 Location: FR

salah,

your agenda is not my agenda...I am not at your service. I have the right to promote democratic and modern ideas...you are stuck in the past

salah Mateus · Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 461

St_antao wrote:

salah,

your agenda is not my agenda...I am not at your service. I have the right to promote democratic and modern ideas...you are stuck in the past

For the very last time. I am not against the new Portugal or the Portuguses people or the new democracy of Portugal I applaud it. It is you as an individual that I don't like. Your agenda is one that would put us back 100 years into the past.

I worked with and still work with my dearest Portuguese friends who are progressive for our future.

It is your attitude that bugs me,you act as though Caboverdianos can't think for themselves and that they are at a loss unless they follow your agenda. Your agenda means nothing. We have our own agenda and as Amilcar Cabral has said we have our own heads to think with.

We don't need you as a person or your agenda.

When i use the word idiotic for you I mean showing complete lack of thought or common sense for Cabo Verde feelings or the feelings of African people or the peopel below the sub-saharan line which you call (Black) or for African Americans.

Manu Salah from the USA

Be Bar nar Trop dinga!

St_antao · Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 370 Location: FR

I feel a lot of rage in your message. It sounds like you hate portugal, which is a democratic country and you don't want to admit that the fascism and the colonialism was the past.

My agenda is the future with a democratic portugal and EU. You hate these two and that's why you show so much rage...

For me you don't represent democracy. But I don't hate you, I am just indifferent to your sensibleless messages. I don't care...

salah Mateus · Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 461

St_antao wrote:

salah,

your agenda is not my agenda...I am not at your service. I have the right to promote democratic and modern ideas...you are stuck in the past

THE PAST IS ONLY A FEW MOMENTS AWAY IT WAS LIKE THE BREATH YOU JUST TOOK AND IT IS GONE THEN THERE IS ANOTHER.
IN CABO VERDE WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS BEST FOR OUR FUTURE AND THEY ARE DOING A GOOD JOB.

TRYING TO PROMOTE DEMOCRACY AND IDEAS FROM FAR AWAY IS NOT A REALITY FOR THEM WHO LIVE IN CABO VERDE AND HAVE TO DEAL WITH THERE REALITY EVERYDAY UNDER SOME DIFFICULT SITUATIONS.

THE ONLY WAY IS TO BE THERE AND TO MAKE YOUR CONTRIBUTION FOR IT TO BE A REALITY. I KNOW WHAT I THINK BUT MY THINKING DOES NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE. I WISH THEM WHO ARE THERE THE BEST
AND WHEN WE GO TO VISIT THAT ALL IS WELL AND AT PEACE AND HARMONY. Smile

alberto · Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 17 Location: dakar

Before concluding that Cape Verde is a part or not of Africa, you should visit Africa ( and visit Europe to know if CV is a part of it too).
You should visit Senegal, Guine, Liberia, Ivory Coast, Mali, Burkina, etc. and visit also Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, Mauritania etc.. and know those people and culture.
You have to do the same thing with Spain, Italy, Portugal.

Only after that YOU CAN KNOW IF CAPE VERDE IS A PART OF AFRICA OR OF EUROPE.