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PauloG.



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 2:50 am    Post subject: The New Cape Verdean Renaissance Reply with quote


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I recently returned from a trip to Santiago and Sal in the Cape Verdean islands. What I witnessed there, during my stay, was nothing less that a renaissance of Cape Verdean society.

I was pleasantly surprised that all I had ever been told about Cape Verde was in fact a retelling of some individuals’ own viewpoint or experience and not the actual truth in regards to civic progress. Actually, I found a country teeming with possibilities and yearning for a better future. I saw a country in great need of fresh minds with greater perspective, young adults willing and able to become the new leaders of a growing economy.

The people of Cape Verde are ready to make due on the many compliments they have received from other nations in regards to sound government and a leader among African nations in terms of socio-economic development. I was lucky enough to sit in political and philosophical debates among other students fresh out of colleges all over the world, who are waiting for an opportunity to make Cape Verde a better place for all. There are many opportunities for employment especially in the Information Technology (IT), finance, health care, and public affairs sectors. There isn't only jobs waiting to be filled by qualified applicants but also jobs waiting to be created by potential companies that may be born out of the zeal of Cape Verdeans who are daring enough to take that next step and invest in our future. Indeed, there's a greater need for sharp brains that are not only waiting for the jobs but most importantly are willing to create them. This is what Cape Verde needs at the present moment: new and aggressive visionaries that makes the country competitive and attractive in the new global scenario.

All that said, this is an official call to arms to all Cape Verdeans abroad who aren’t afraid to be leaders. Many nations including the U.S have invested millions of dollars towards the future of Cape Verde, but without the right leadership in place we may stand to loose our ability to prove we can be an example to other nations. The time is now, take the time to rediscover our roots, our culture and be apart of the progress, be a part of the future of our land.

So what do you say, will you answer the call?


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 11:56 am    Post subject: Re: The Cape Verdean Renaissance Reply with quote

PauloG. wrote:
This is what Cape Verde needs at the present moment: new and aggressive visionaries that makes the country competitive and attractive in the new global scenario.

All that said, this is an official call to arms to all Cape Verdeans abroad who aren’t afraid to be leaders.


I couldn't agree with you more!

When I read the article Cape Verde Spends United States' Millennium Grant by Phuong Tran (http://www.voanews.com/english/2007-02-21-voa28.cfm) in forcv, I was surprise to find out, if I'm not wrong, that the Cape Verdean government seems to have challenge managing and using the Millennium Challenge funds especially when it comes to starting new projects and meeting the deadlines:

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"A lot of the donors are obviously interested in the tourism sector," he said. "The challenge is really to find a way to manage all the interests, developments, investments that are taking place and will take place over the next few years."

The Cape Verde government is expected to start the Millennium projects by the end of this year.

Grant Director Brito says this deadline is tight, but that his government knew the rules when it accepted the Millennium Grant. "
(http://www.voanews.com/english/2007-02-21-voa28.cfm)

Here we have millions of dollars in our hands and we seem not to have figure out completely how to start using it yet. This is where the new visionaries would come in and bring new ideas and projects they've learn in US, Brazilian and European universities or they've experienced and see working in developed countries like US, France, Germany, Holland, etc.

But one thing has to happen for this visionaries to succeed: the Cape Verdean government has to be willing to give them a chance. In other words, the old folks in power and the other Cape Verdean professionals that are already in the system have to be willing to open their hands to the young ones and the Diaspora innovators and not see them as their enemy and competitors that are coming to take their power or jobs. There's a place for all of us in the new development stage of Cape Verde. But the government need to come to the table with the new entrants in this process, talk about each other's concerns, and be willing to share power and opportunities with the new risk takers. We have to work together for one cause. As they say in America, "United we stand... Divided we fall."
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a mixed point of view on that topic.

1. the harsh side...CV will be back into the portuguese republic very soon, because cv is not a sustainable country, it needs to be included back into portugal. and this will happen very soon.

2. the good side...CV will devloppe and will meet limitations on its devloppement, which will make cv-politicians aware of the need of cv to go back inside the portuguese republic.

Then the question is what is the best status for cv

1) an independent republic. I think that it will not work, because cv is to small and has no ressources.

2) an autonomous territory of portugal, it is a solution, but not perfect as cv has had 30 of self-governement

3) an independent territory of portugal, this would be the perfect situation as cv would benefit from being part of portugal (our father land) and will continue to have its own governement. (puerto-rico/usa)

4) an associated republic to portugal, this will not bring enough benefits to cape-verde.

For me the perfect status that will allow cv to continue its devlopment is a "independent territory of portugal", which would be fully part of portugal but will have its own governement.

the current status of independent republic is not sustainable and will colapse when the country will be upgraded to a middle income-country by the UN which will make international loans more expensive to capeverde.

I think that "allea jacta est" and CV will be back into the portuguese republic in less than 20 years
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salah Mateus



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:17 pm    Post subject: It's a new Day. Reply with quote

That's a very interesting comment that cabo verde will be back in Portugal.
Portugal never took care of the people in Cabo Verde when they were there. They are having great difficulty taken care of their own. The rich are very rich and the poor are very poor. Why do think that so many people from Portugal leave to come to the USA.

We have done more for Cabo verde in the last 30 years then Portugal ever did in 500 years. Have you been to Portugal recently and seen the barrio ghetto both in and outside of Lisbon. God forbid.


Without Africa Portugal will not be able to make it on it's own, If anything the future will show that Africa will own Portugal. Portugal has no resources.no diamonds,gold or oil. if it was not for Africa and Great Briton,
Portugal would have been a lost cause. Guinea Bissau,St Tome Principe,Angola and Mozambique are the countries with the wealth,it is only time for future development. The CONCP and the leaders of those countries are working towards that end. Sorry to disappoint you on that score you are so wrong. If any thing Portugal will belong to Africa Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe portugal should be incorporated into the cape verdean republic.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and maybe the usa should be incorporated into the puerto-rican republic...
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please lets try to keep the conversation on the topic...don't waist your time with St. Antao

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

salah,

you are talking about a potential, any country in africa has the potential to be richer than portugal but they don't realise their potential...so we can't talk of what doesn't exist.

back to the topic...
what will happen when cape-verde will be upgraded to the middle-income countries. I firmly beleive that capeverde has a great potential of devloppement, but it doesn't have sustainability, in order to have sustainability, it has o integrate portugal again. This will solve the problem of funding and will allow the devloppement to continue.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank-you ST_Antao for sticking to the topic and raising a valid question. Now then every developed and/or developing country has to think about sustainability. If your talking about economic sustainability then the answer is the fact that Cape Verde has made significant steps to become more self reliant. Please read the reports by the Ministry of Agriculture for example the growing of crops and other food have increased in proportion to economic development. The development of the cape verde an stock market is also a tool which will allow cape verdeans to continue to invest in there future and stay competitive. The aid that has reached cape verde is being assigned to project like water dams and newer and cleaner forms of power for its citizens. A month ago as I stood on top of pico santo antonio and could see the dam that was built with the help of our Chinese friends. I could see how that simple structure has begun to change the interior of our country. The land is green and filled with new fields of crops for import and export. Our country will grow and will be sustainable if we want it to as much as we want our next meal. We must work to sustain our country as all other countries do. This is evolution this is the future.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

St. Antao my friend, intelligent minds focus not on the problem but work to divise a solution. I encourage you to do the same.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

paolo,

I was the only one to propose a solution for the sustainability of capeverde economy.

My solution is not acceptable for you just because you absolutly want capeverde to be linked to africa because you have been brainwashed by amilcar cabrals theories.
Africa doesn't care of capeverde, the objective solution is capeverde to be intergrated back into portugal, as a self-governed independent territory.

The advantages of such an union are enormous.
1. capeverde continues to stay self-governed. Capeverde will continue to held elections for president, will continue to have its own football team, will if it wants will still continue to be represented in international and regional institutions.
2. capeverde devloppement is not anymore dependent on international aid, the EU will fund the devloppement of capeverde just like it did with spain (spain received 11 billion$/year from the EU since 1986).
3. Emmigration to the EU countries such as holland, france, italy, or england are allowed without any kind of restriction, the EU tourists from holland, france, italy or england can come to capeverde, without any kind of restriction too.

Capeverde will become sustainable in that process and will not anymore have to fight for funds. Capeverde will still be an example of devloppement for africa and it will be also for azores and madeira who will admire capeverde for doing what they always wanted to do...be a self-governed territory, and will end up searching for the same status.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What you are proposing is in the agenda of Cv government, but that is not anexation to Portugal, but integration to the EU where Portugal is also included. At this stage, I think Postugal is advocating for this hipothetical integration of CapeVerde with a special Statute to the EU, and Cv government, according to Jose Maria Neves, a proposal were to be submitted back in December of 2006 to EU. That is in the works, there will probably conditions, but Cv will be part of EU as a sovereign country, with its own government structure and representation in the EU. The ECOWAS membership of Cabo Verde at this moment, I think, is beign discussed, - sombody may advance any recent information - some proposes staying away from the ECOWAS, others to change some clauses of the statute. I think CV should opt to their best interests.

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salah Mateus



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is wonderful that so many people have ideas on how Cabo verde should develope. I think that cabo verde is doing a great job and the people who are the developers are doing a great job. It is one thing to have ideas but as it was said by Cabral once we don't go by just ideas people have in their heads but the reality of doing that is to put your money and talent where your mouth is. It would be nice if folk who feel thay have the means to build Cabo Verde why don't they go there and do the job. It has been said that their are very wealthy Caboverdianos in and outside of Cabo Verde. Well I am not one of them so I have nothing to give,Iam very poor myself Smile

My question is do you think that is why so many foreigers with money are going to Cabo Verde and do you all think that is a good thing.

Last year I notice an increase in folk from China and Belgium.

Is it true that Tiger Woods is going to build a Golf course in Cabo Verde?
Has any one heard?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

St_antao wrote:
and maybe the usa should be incorporated into the puerto-rican republic...



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salah Mateus



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

St_antao wrote:
salah,

you are talking about a potential, any country in africa has the potential to be richer than portugal but they don't realise their potential...so we can't talk of what doesn't exist.

back to the topic...
what will happen when cape-verde will be upgraded to the middle-income countries. I firmly beleive that capeverde has a great potential of devloppement, but it doesn't have sustainability, in order to have sustainability, it has o integrate portugal again. This will solve the problem of funding and will allow the devloppement to continue.


The time will come when Africa will get its act together it is only a matter of time,we are working on it. No country has gone from 0 to 10000 in a day,if you get my point. Africa has more students in colleges and Universities around the world. In about 25 to 50 years you will see a more united Africa. They do have all the resources and minerals to get the job done. It is only time when they will be in control. Cabo Verde is part of that process.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

St. Antao I never said that I my goal was to have cape verde linked to Africa; that's not even the point in question because CV is already part of Africa. What I stated is that Cape Verde/ Cape Verdeans must continue to work to make our sovereign nation more sustainable for the benefit of Cape Verdeans first and who ever wants to follow our example are free to do so.

As to your comment on cape verdean sustainability, it makes no sense!?!
You propose that Cape Verde be incorporated into Portugal and wait for EU funds. How is that sustainability if the EU would be sustaining us??? As for the rest of your comment it makes no "heads or tails"; so I don't even know how to respond to that. Being incorporated into Portugal but be an independent ruling autonomous government, how is that being incorporated into Portugal?%&@#*?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

congratulations paolo, you are playing for me. that's precisely my point, capeverde is not sustainable and will never be because the climate and the dispersion of the 10 islands. when capeverde will be upgraded to middle income it will loose a lot of its loans. The fact to be incorporated into Portugal and so the EU, will allow cv to have funds that will sustain capeverde economy. The EU funds are not loans but are offered by the richer countries to the poors to help them devlop their economy.

Concerning the "independent autonomous territory" status, similar status already exists for other island nations in the caraibean and the pacific and also in Russia, and puerto-rico/usa, and I am convinced that this will suit very well to cv and portugal.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

St.Antao you're simply ridiculous.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 5:10 pm    Post subject: Please, everybody Boycott St_Antao! Reply with quote

Please, everybody Boycott St_Antao!

From reading and analyzing St_Antao's posts I've noticed that he has a clear agenda on this forum:

- Promote the European superiority propaganda based on the color coded system

- Mock and ridicule the Cape Verdean independence from Portugal and at the same time promote the false notion that Cape Verdeans are Portuguese and so should become a dependent territory of Portugal

- Promote the propaganda that Africans are inferior and Cape Verde is not part of Africa

- Interrupt any conversations or discussions about the progress and development of Cape Verde as an independent country

- Insult people, and disturb any progressive debates

- Suffocate the positive things from Cape Verde while gearing everybody's focus on negative and worthless debates

So, since he's against the goals of this forum I suggest everybody here boycott him by ignoring his comments while keeping the positive discussions with other members here.

At some point he's going to get desperate and start to insult other people since no one is paying attention to him. Consequently he’s going to be banned from this great forum and the visitors and members of this site will enjoy exchanging constructive and positive discussions without he’s annoyance and negativity.

Please, let me know if you agree with this approach.

I myself can only take so much ignorance and stupidity, especially when they are premeditated and planned. When it gets to much it triggers my allergy to ignorance and BSing. In fact, my doctor said I cannot hang around ignorance much because it can suck you in like a black hole and make you worse than its source. Laughing So, on my department, I'm starting the boycott right as I finish these typing these words. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

insult? when did I insult anyone in this site?
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salah Mateus



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NO YOU WERE NOT THE ONLY ONE TO PROPOSE A SOLUTION.

YOU GIVE YOUR SELF CREDIT FOR SOMETHING BEFORE YOU CAME ON THE SCENE. VANITY ALL IS VANITY. DO YOU RELIAZE THAT THERE WAS PEOPLE PLANNING FOR CABO VERDE 50 YEARS AGO.
WAS YOU ON THAT PLANNING COMMITTEE?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Salah,

you live with DOGMAS, which prevent you from objectivity....
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 1:34 pm    Post subject: Take a trip to Ghana & Study,They speak English. Reply with quote

St_antao wrote:
Salah,

you live with DOGMAS, which prevent you from objectivity....



Were you on that committee?
Yes or No! Answer the question.

We think you live with DOGMAS. A very established opinion (European) a definite authoritative tenet from your educational background. If you really want to know the truth. And have some facts why don't you go and study at the University of Ghana.We think you will learn something very innovative to use your word. We do have adequate grounds on the subject. Perhaps if you are open minded and you really want to know about Africa.
Have you ever read the AFRICAN Encyclopedia By Dr.W.E.B. Du Bois also The Souls Of Black Folk.

Have you ever read; 100 Amazing facts About the Negro By J.A.Rogers
With complete proof.

How about: From Man To Superman J.A.Rogers

African Gift To America - by J.A.Rogers

Then there is, Black Lies'White Lies The Truth According to TONY BROWN.Have you ever been to what you call Black Africa to study.?

There is more to history then meets the eye,my friend. I am truley concerned about you. But I am not going to argue with you about it.
You do what is best for you and we willdo what is best for us. We can still be friends and agree to disagree. Is that Ok with you?Get back to me when you read those Books,you can go online for that information..

Have you gone on line to seek.
(The Global African Presence) By Dr. Ronoko Rashidi

Joy and Happiness to you with new enlightenment.

Manu
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would rather read the history of the indians or the arabs...do you have a bibliograpphy for me, or are you just interested in africa?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

St_antao wrote:
I would rather read the history of the indians or the arabs...do you have a bibliograpphy for me, or are you just interested in africa?



At the age of 74 I have studied world history and have been to Europe,Asia,middle east,North & South America.

I spent my informative years in the USA studying Europe and USA history and have lived on reservation in Arizona and Mexico. I attend the Pow Wow every year is Mashpee,Mass. members of my family are married to Native Indians. My interest in African history came at the age of 25 when I read and Dr.J.A.Rogers Book on 100 Amazing Facts and other historians such as Basil Davidson,Dr John Hope Franklin,Dr.Kwame Nkrumah,Dr.Ali A.Mazrui and so many other to many to name.
My interest is all the people in our planet earth. I spent most of my time in libraries such U.Pa,Boston U. B.C.,UCLA,Harvard U,Howard U. in DC and the Library of Congress in DC,The Schomburg Library in New York.I just love libraries and art musems. Boston Mass has one of the finest musems around. Today with the computer you don't have to leave the house it is all at your finger tips.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:37 pm    Post subject: CABO VERDE RENAISSANCE Reply with quote

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                              RENAISSANCE

Meaning to be born again. A rebirth developing a new society a transformation making a change. That is what our struggle was all about.

That is precisely what we are doing in Cabo verde.

The present government is working to make the change to make sure we undue all that was wrong in the past.

500 years of colonialism is not an easy task to overcome in a short time but we are making progress little by little as we say (Krung Krung)

Progressive elimination of exploitation of the past.

One of the certain changes that we have made and are still making is the rapid elimination of illiteracy.

The development of the Caboverdean culture in literture and art, music and dance.

Utilisation of values in the service of Cabo Verde people

Creation of the necessary means of effective national defence

A new mind set that all Caboverdianos & Caboverdianas and our youth will participate in the discipline of vigilance in our unity for progress for our national sovereignty and to protect our state from all criminal activity against our population or any crime against humanity.

To be continued.

Manu Salah
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