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Carlos Veiga is a member of the portuguese Freemasonry

 
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 5:47 pm    Post subject: Carlos Veiga is a member of the portuguese Freemasonry Reply with quote

Maçonaria portuguesa chama Carlos Veiga a Lisboa


O "controleiro" de Carlos Veiga na loja maçónica Grande Oriente Lusitano, João Soares, filho do ex-Presidente Mário Soares, chamou a Lisboa o candidato perdedor das eleições presidenciais cabo-verdianas para consulta. A anteceder Carlos Veiga, que parte esta tarde, seguiram também para Lisboa de madrugada os seus apoiantes Jorge Carlos Fonseca (Zona) e a sua mulher Lígia, ex-bastonária da Ordem dos Advogados de Cabo Verde.



Segundo fontes de "P14", a maçonaria considera que Carlos Veiga se está a suicidar politicamente, seguindo as pisadas de Agostinho Lopes, hoje considerado uma "carta fora do baralho" por muitos dos seus companheiros, com a declaração de intenção de pedir a impugnação das presidências, ganhas de forma limpa e clara por Pedro Pires, com uma vantagem de 50,97%, segundo a DGAE, ou de 50,84% segundo a CNE (as discrepâncias entre a CNE, onde os comissários afectos ao MpD dominam, e a DGAE permanecem).


A loja maçónica, de forte tendência machista (as mulheres têm a sua loja à parte) não veria também com bons olhos a hipótese de Isaura Gomes vir a assumir a liderança do "seu" MpD.


Carlos Veiga terá entrado para o Grande Oriente Lusitano nos finais dos anos 70, quando vários quadros cabo-verdianos, incluindo o director deste jornal e o professor e músico Henrique Oliveira (Djick), que declinaram o convite, foram aliciados.


Além de ser o elemento mais notório da maçonaria portuguesa em Cabo Verde, Carlos Wahnon Veiga é também sobrinho do falecido presidente da Liga Sionista no nosso país, Carlinhos Wahnon.


Lígia Fonseca, recorde-se, é filha do célebre desertor da Frelimo e colaboracionista com as autoridades coloniais portuguesas Máximo Dias, hoje líder dum dos inúmeros pequenos partidos moçambicanos.


Outra nota curiosa é que Cabo Verde deve ser o único país em que elementos da maçonaria e a hierarquia da Igreja Católica mantêm uma forte cumplicidade.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now here's a broken down English version:

1)Delgado states that Joao Soares, CEO of Grande Lusitano Oriente, a general portuguese department store, has summoned Carlos Veiga to Lisbon for some strategy discussion on their plan for a unified luso Cape Verde (read: re-colonization of Cape Verde via neo-colonialism.) Grande Lusitano Oriente is widely believed to be the premier Freemasonry institution in Portugal.

2) Delgado further states that one of Veiga's chief campaign strategist, Jorge Fonseca(Zona), who is likewise believed to be a member of the Portuguese Freemansory, was also summoned by Joao Soares to discuss his future role in the Cape Verdean central government.

Now how is this informaton relavant? Here's my answer: for a decade, Carlos Veiga attemped to change every symbolic and material things that are quintessencially CV into that which is more palatable to the European standard, i.e. portuguese standard. He changed the flag, the national anthem, and worst of all, he sold just about all of the crucial state enterprises to the portuguese sons of ex-colonialists. These neo-colonialist decisions by him baffled many in Cape Verde and in the outside world. However, now with this revelation of him being a member of the portuguese freemansory, we know exactly who was really the architec of it all - the master of his mind - the powers-that-be from Grande Lusitano Oriente. Fortunately, the people of Cape Verde have rejected their ominous ne-colonial plans. We'll continue to thwart their evil plans by rejecting them in the ballot box.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

!!!!!!!!!!! Sem comentàrio
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:10 pm    Post subject: Veiga belongs to Freemansory? Reply with quote

How do you Know that he is a member of the lodge

What about the Knights of Columbus?

Please give more information.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Veiga belongs to Freemansory? Reply with quote

Manu Salah wrote:
How do you Know that he is a member of the lodge

What about the Knights of Columbus?

Please give more information.


Do some research on the reactionary, neo-colonial, decisions made from 91 to 2000 and you'd see a striking similarity between colonial puppets from other developing nations and him. That is, you'd come to a conclusion that he is a mere puppet of a higher neo-colonial power, the portuguese masonry.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A reminder, the Masons are widely believed to be a secret organization bent on controlling the entire nations of the world and eventually forming a new world order(nwo). They're headquartered in the U.S. but they have chapters in each european country. The European chapters' main goal is to have complete control of the former colonies via neo-colonialism by buying all the crucial state enterprises such as banks, electricity and communication companies. However, the most important of all their strategies, is to grease(buy) and subsequently control local influential politicians and transform them into mere puppets. Carlos Veiga is one of their Cape Verdean puppets.
Fortunately, though, they have a hard time controlling the people - o povao - the masses. In our case, they've failed. Most of us aren't consciously aware of their existence, but our instincts assure us of their reactionary plans, so we keep thwarting them as we've done in the last couple of months.

What are your thoughts?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 6:11 pm    Post subject: not convinced Reply with quote

I still haven't see any specific proofs to believe Carlos Veiga is a free mason. You laid down a bunch of statements but no evidences to support them.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is purely speculation. I'm not a fan of Mister Veiga but could he be that bad? Let's give him the benefit of the doubt.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find it interesting that some of you speak about the Masonic Lodge but I don't hear anything being said about the Knights of Columbus.

Knights of Columbus which is a Roman Catholic organization which was part of the colonialist life which in fact is the parent organization of Masonics. One is Catholic the other is Protestant.
When did the two; that was one, seperate and for what reason?
They both profess to believe in Christ.
Do we know the truth about Christ ?

The Church was very close to Carlos Veiga and MpD. They all have their game too play. Does any one know the real facts?

Has salvation been brought to Cabo Verde or for that matter any place else in the world. More people are being killed under the name of religion and more wars are fought in the name of God.
Do we really know the truth?
If Jesus was to come would we follow him? Perhaps he would do as he did in the past whip the money changers and turn over the tables.

THEN PETER SAID,WE OUGHT TO OBEY GOD RATHER THAN MEN.
THE GOD OF OUR FATHERS RAISED UP JESUS,WHOM YE SLEW AND HANGED ON A TREE.

JESUS SAID: "YE HAVE NOT CHOSEN ME, BUT I HAVE CHOSEN YOU".

So where do we go from here?

MANU SALAH
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:44 pm    Post subject: Nothing New Reply with quote

Greetings:

It’s been over 2 years that I started researching secret societies from Knights Templar, free Masons, Skulls & Bones, Bilderberg Group and the Trilateral Commission based purely on curiosity.

These secret societies appears to be a tight knit fraternity of national and world leaders, however in reality they are trendsetters, and they seem to be at the steering wheel of every major society in Europe and in the Americas with US as the major location.

Those who questions or talk openly about them are considered conspiracy theorists, due simply to the fact that these secret society operate in incredibly secrecy.
At least 35% of all US presidents were free masons and their symbols are all over our symbols such as money, logos, and buildings and even in some very popular companies which were established by free mason members.

These societies are about power for themselves and although there maybe affiliations with the church, there is nothing religious about them. Pure power and domination of societies, bringing all of us under its grip.
Portugal is known as one of the European countries where secret societies are very influential; possibly where some of the Knights Templar went to after King Phillip of France went after them on Friday 13th many centuries ago.

I’ve always suspected that key members of MPD being Free Masons affiliated with the Portuguese branch simply because they were financially assisted in their campaign and arrogantly replaced almost every national symbol with Masonic Symbols.

My intention of this comment is to hopefully alert some of you to research this for yourself, by going to your public library, search engine and from time to time watch the history channel.

The point is that this is not a secrete, however what they know is that the mass will never attempt to acquire real knowledge and grow insight. The mass will always be controlled by religion, big business, and government, however within these entity there is the secrete society which controls the true destiny of its society for the purpose of growing and retaining power for themselves only.
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In closing some of you readers will disagree, but the reality is that US, and every country in Euro Union are controlled by members of these secret societies now ask yourselves WHY IS CV ABOVE THIS? The reality is that CV has been branded by the Free Masons and they are trying to grab power again which will continue to widen the gap of wealth and power between the rich & the poor by concentrating them in the hands of the few.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Nothing New,One and the same. Reply with quote

Kiko thank you for that information,but you did not answer the question in the above post.
What about the Knights of Columbus ?

I am not a member of any of these organization.
I have made some inquiries,have friends who belong.

The only difference is the Masons go up one side of the Pyramid and the Knights of Columbus go up the other side when they get to the apex they are one and the same.

They say that they are a fraternity of brotherhood and charity.

Check out the Illuminati,New World Order?

All are controlled by the Church and behind close doors The Pope is the king. Why do you think that after 1 thousands years the Pope went to Turkey? The power for mind control.

I would hope that Cabo verde would be in controll of its own philosophy and psychology as Amilcar Cabral has said we have our own heads to think with.
I have made mention that CV is the place of Christo Vica.
Christ is to be found in every religion buy different names
in different languages. His teaching is that of the all in all.
THE GRANDE FOCUS VIDA DE UNIVERSE FORCA SUPERIOR ASTRAL
ALLAH ALI AZIZ.
THE REAL QUESTION IS WHO IS TRULY THE HEAD OF OUR BODY.
CABO VERDE AZIJAH IS THE LIVING TEMPLE OF DEUS SOON AS WE GAIN OUR BALANCE.

"ALSO THE SONS OF THE STRANGERS,THAT JOIN THEMSELVES TO THE LORD,TOSERVE HIM,AND TO LOVE THE NAME OF THE LORD,TO BE HIS SERVANTS,EVERY ONE THAT KEEPTH THE SABBATH FROM POLLUTING
IT,AND TAKETH HOLD OF MY COVENANT; EVEN THEM WILL I BRING TO MY HOLY MOUNTAINS,AND MAKE THEM JOYFUL IN MY HOUSE OF PRAYER;
THEIR BURNT OFFERINGS AND THEIR SACRIFICES AHALL BE ACCEPTED UPON MINE ALTAR,FOR MINE HOUSE SHALL BE CALLED AN HOUSE OF PRAYER FOR ALL PEOPLE." RAD ISAIAH CHAPTER 56.
Graca de Deus.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:49 am    Post subject: Facinating Reply with quote

Greetings to all:

Salah, in my statement I clearly mentioned that from my understanding there is nothing religious about the Free Masons and it has no affiliation with any church and they are not trying to convert anyone.

It started out in Scotland as a brotherhood of masonry workers who build churches and Cathedrals like a union at first, but then the illuminati movement form France, Germany and later England infiltrated this brotherhood or union and the rest is history.

Today their elite members are who’s who of our society, and it is believed by many that within the this fraternity there is another level of secrecy in which the majority are not even aware of and this is the circle of influence which puts out agenda which is them introduced in our political system.

Some even claim that their rituals are satanic or close to it. Now if you trace the history one can see or connect the Free Manson to the Illuminati which can them be connected to the Knights Templar which initial were a part of the Holy Roman Catholic church. They were the ones that were part of the church and then gained tremendous wealth and power and then distanced themselves from the Pope eventually crushed by King Phillip in France.

It is believed by many that when King Phillip crushed them that they fragmented to form today’s Switzerland, many went to Spain and Portugal and others went to England. Many even believe that some of them came to today’s Canada to hide their great fortunes.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 3:58 pm    Post subject: Knights of Columbus & Masonic & Shriners? Reply with quote

KIKO.

From what I understand that you must believe in God or a higher power in order to be in the Mason and in the Knights of Columbus.
What can you say about the K.C.

What is the big difference between the two. Knights of Columbus is also a secret organization is it not?
Before Martin Luther; was not the Roman Catholic Church the Master of all that was surveyed. What had Egypt to do with all of it. We find that a great deal of Islam is part of their theater. I don't know I am just asking question since you made this a topic on the post?

Perhaps what we need,is to have some one from those organizations to tell us what they think about the subject,that is if they are free to make it public.

Do you know who was Hiram Abiff and the history about that person?
Do you know anything about 2 Ball Cane?
Who was Jubuli,Jubalum& Jubalo What does that have to do with France.Great Britian and the USA?

Who is the real Hiram Abiff and why was he waylayed brought on a westley course and buried in the North East corner and put in a shallow grave. Does that have anything to do with Africa or the Atlantic Slave trade?

Are you familar with the different handshakes of the two organization which is known by only their members? Why do the Mason or the Shriners wear the Fez and Middle East clothing at the parades. What does it all mean my Brother.
Did your research give you any information on the subject.

Again what is the difference between the Masons The Shriners and the Knights of Columbus?

I suppose if you wanted to really know you would join then you can tell us all about it. Do they have it in Cabo Verde?
Thank you for your post very interesting subject.
So George George Wahington was a Master Mason. Wow!

Is it true that the highest degree is 33%,In the Masons and in the K.of C. it is 4%. What can you tell us about all of this? Why do they say that the light is in the East and you must travel east to get the wisdom?

How far East do you have to go and from what reference point?

Cher'no Salahudin Omowali
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greetings to all:

Salah, it is important to understand that I’m not an expert on secrete societies and I don’t claim to know the intricate details because there are great secrecy in their meetings etc.
However, many things about them are public knowledge which they do not reject.

Now Hiram is a key or central character to the Free Masons and as the story goes he was a great architect or masonry who worked in King Solomon’s Temple and he had received great knowledge which he was to keep secrete until he had found the next heir to that secrete knowledge, however he was killed by 3 colleagues who were obsessed with gaining this knowledge. I also believe that the reenactment of his assassination is an important ritual to the Free Masons.

Many of the secrete societies borrow form Egyptology, the Babylonian and Hebrew and religion. Their rituals, symbols can be connected to these great civilizations.

As far as I know the Knights of Columbus is a Catholic fraternal charity organization which also honors the memory of C. Columbus which members have to Catholic men 18 and over and I believe it was started in US in the beginning of the 1900s.

As far as know the Shiners is a fraternity in which certain Masons can end up joining their appearance is that they party and have fun, which can just a public distraction along with the fact that they do charity work especially hospital for children.

Their symbol has Egyptian and Arabic influence in them and again they seem to do charity work and show up in parades, but their true objectives are of questions because they are high level Free Masons.

The point is that this fraternity has for members some very powerful and influential people and it is strongly believed by many that when the elite get together they set agendas which ultimately becomes public policy and laws with the primary reason of strengthening their power and wealth. However, they may also have the public’s interest in mind as well.
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