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salah Mateus · Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 852

MY DEAR FRIENDS AROUND THE WORLD OF ALL RELIGIONS AND THOSE
WHO DON'T HAVE A RELIGION. THOSE WHO SAY THEY BELIEVE IN GOD AND FOR THOSE WHO DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD.

THIS IS A NEW BEGINNING OR AS SOME WOULD LIKE TO SAY BEING BORN AGAIN.

MAN IS GOD AND GOD IS MAN CALL GOD BY ANY NAME IN ANY LANGUAGE.

JESUS WAS A MAN BORN OF A WOMAN LIKE ALL MEN.

LET THAT SINK IN. i WILL BE BACK.

salah Mateus · Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 852

THIS IS WHERE ALL THE CONFUSION STARTS IN THE SO-CALLED WORD.

MAN-HOMO-SAPIEN-HUMAN-BEINGS-HUMANKIND- MALE FEMALE.

WE HAVE COME ALONG WAY BUT YOU STILL HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO.

LET SKIP THROUGH ALL OF THE MANY ANCIENT HISTORICAL PAST RELATING TO REMOTE PERIOD, TO A TIME OF THE HOW MAN AND WOMAN GOT HERE. THE REALITY IS WE KNOW THAT WE ARE HERE.

MAN CREATED GOD CALL IT BY ANY NAME BECAUSE HE DID NOT KNOW THE ANSWERS TO HIS ACTUAL BEGINNING,SO IN THE CREATION OF THE WORD SPOKEN AFTER AEON OF TIME OUT OF HIS IGNORANCE OF DEFINITION OF WORDS AS HE MADE PROGRESS IN SPEECH AND THE ALPHABET AND THE SPOKEN WORD. FROM THE TIME OF THE BANTU TO THE PRESENT DAY TO THE WRITINGS OF THE BIBLE MAN MADE HIMSELF INTO HIS ULTRA EGO OF BEING WHAT HE CONCIEVED AS A GOD. THE FATHER IN THE HEAVENS OR THE SKY.

THE POWER WAS IN THE MIND AND THE HANDS OF THOSE WHO CAME UP TO THE WRITTEN WORD. PRIEST,PROPHETS,SOOTH-SAYERS AND ALL THE OTHER NAMES YOU HAVE IN THE WORD. THEN IT IS SAID THE WORD BECAME FLESH.

LOOK MY FRIENDS ALL THESE YEARS FROM THE TORAH,THE BIBLE TO THE QUR'AN AND ALL OTHER BOOKS,NOTHING HAS REALLY CHANGED.
MORE WARS AND DEATH AND WHAT IS CALLED SINFULNESS AND ALL OF THE PREACHING AND PONTIFICATION MAN IS STILL AT A LOSS BECAUSE HE WILL NOT OBEY THE SIMPLE LAW OF BEING RESPONSIBLE OR REALLY TRYING TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT. AFTER THOUSANDS OR MORE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE WITH BAD BEHAVIOR COMMON SENSE TELLS US THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS WE SHOULD NOT DO BUT WE DO THEM ANYWAY. NOW HERE COMES A MAN WHO THE WRITERS SAY WAS SENT FROM GOD;HIS NAME IS JOHN.

HE COMES AS A WITNESS TO TESTIFY CONCERNING A LIGHT TO TAKE US OUT OF DARKNESS.WHAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN?

THERE ARE THOSE WHO SAY THEY HAVE THE LIGHT BUT THEY STILL LIVE IN DARKNESS. HOW CAN THAT BE? BECAUSE THERE DEEDS ARE STILL EVIL AND VILE. IN THE OLD ENGLISH LANGAUGE TO SIN MEANT YOU MISSED THE MARK;THAT IS THOSE WHO DID NOT HIT THE BULLS EYE AMONG THE ARCHERS. WELL WE AS HUMANBEINGS HAVE MISSED THE BULLSEYE OF THE WORD OF THE RABBI EMMANUEL (YASHUA) ALSO CALLED JESUS BY THE GREEKS A GREAT TEACHER WHO BROUGHT ABOUT A NEW WORD OF WISDOM AND ENLIGHTENMENT FOR ALL THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD TO LIVE BY TO HAVE PEACE JOY AND HAPPINESS. HE WAS ASSASSINATED,CRUCFIED.

TO BE CONTINUED.

salah Mateus · Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 852

FROM THE BOOK: THE LEGACY OF ARAB-ISLAM IN AFRICA.
A Quest for religious Dialogue- African-MuslimChristian relations in
colonial Africa.
By John Alembillah Azumah,PhD University of Birmingham,England.

"AFRICAN LANGUAGE HAVE NO EQUIVALENT FOR WESTERN WORD'RELIGION' OR INDEED 'RITUAL' SO IN ORDER TO CONSIDER THE RELIGION OF CHRISTIANITY AND ISLAM THEY HAVE TO START USING AN ALIEN AND IMPORTED WORD.

SIMILARLY THE PRACTIONERS OF AFRICAN TRADITIONAL RELIGION DO NOT LOOK UPON THEIR RELIGION BELIEFS AND PRACTICES AS DISTINCT SET OF ACTIVITIES SEPARATED FROM ECONOMIC OR OTHER ONES, NOR ARE THEY DEFINED AS THE RELIGIONS OF YORUBA,ZULU OR KAMBA PEOPLES AS IF THEY WERE NATIONAL CHURCHES.

AN OLD TRADITIONALIST ON BEING ASKED HIS RELIGION WOULD REPLY
'I AM A ZULU OR WHATEVER.

CONSEQUENTLY,EVEN THOUGH AFRICANS ARE PERVASIVELY RELIGIOUS
ONE CANNOT TALK OF 'RELIGION' PER SE IN TRADITIONAL AFRICAN TERMS. IN OTHER WORDS ONE CAN TALK OF METPHYSICAL PHENOMENA
WHILE THE LATTER IS SEEN IN TERM OF A CODIFIED AND INSTITUTIONALIZED SET OF DOCTRINES AND RITUAL PRACTICES.

THE AFRICAN WAY OF LIFE IN EVERY ASPECT IS IMMERSED IN 'RELIGION', SO MUCH THAT TO ASK HIM/HER WHAT IS RELIGION IS LIKE ASKING: WHO YOU ARE? AS A CHINESE PROVERB HAS IT,(IF YOU
WANT A DEFINITION OF WATER,DO NOT ASK A FISH).

THE ONLY DEFINITION OF (RELIGION TO THE AFRICAN THEREFORE,IS THAT IT IS INDEFINABLE; BECAUSE THE RELIGION OF AFRICA DOES NOT LIVE IN THE PAGES OF BOOKS ON "WORLD RELIGION" RATHER IT LIVES IN THE HEARTS AND LIVES OF PEOPLE."

YOU CAN READ THIS FOR YOUR SELF IN THE BOOK ON PAGE 48-49.

FOR SOME PEOPLE THE WORD RELIGION MEANS TO BIND TOGETHER.

THE AFRICANS HAD TO BE ISLAMIZED AND CHRISTIANIZED BY THOSE WHO WERE FOREIGN INVADERS. AFRICAN HAD THEIR OWN LIFE STYLE AND BASED ON THEIR CULTURE AND THE REALITIES OF THEIR ACTUALITIES. AMILCAR CABRAL MADE THAT VERY CLEAR.

THERE ARE THOSE WHO WILL SAY THAT THEY WERE BRINGING CIVILIZATION TO WHAT THEY CALLED SAVAGES;BUT TO BE CLEAR IT LOOKS LIKE TODAY THEIR ARE MORE SAVAGES WITH RELIGION AND WITH GUNS AND BOMBS, ATOMIC AND NUCLEAR.

JUST THOUGHT THAT i WOULD SHARE THAT FROM THE BOOK AND PERHAPS SOME OF YOU WOULD READ IT FOR YOUR EDIFICATION.
TO BE CONTINUED.

salah Mateus · Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 852

FROM THE SAME BOOK ON PAGE 135. THIS IS HOW IT READS.
PAGE 135
"AND HOW THEY DEPICT BLACKS AS INHERENTLY INFERIOR AND DESTINED TO BE ENSLAVED BY THE REST OF MANKIND"

HERE IS WHAT A FAMOUS IRANIAN PHILOSOPHER BY THE NAME OF NASIR al-DIN TUSI (1201-74 HAD TO SAY. "IF (VARIOUS KINDS OF MEN)
ARE TAKEN... AND ONE PLACED AFTER ANOTHER,LIKE THE NEGRO FROM ZANZIBAR,INTHE SOUTH-MOST COUNTRIES,THE NEGRO DOES NOT DIFFER FROM AN ANIMAL IN ANYTHING EXCEPT THE FACT THAT HIS HANDS HAVE BEEN LIFTED FROM THE EARTH,-EXCEPT FOR WHAT GOD WISHES. MANY HAVE BEEN SEEN THAT THE APE IS MORE CAPABLE OF BEING TRAINED THAN THE NEGRO,AND MORE INTELLIGENT."

IBN KHALDUN(1332-1406) ON HIS PART WROTE:" THAT BLACKS ARE ONLY HUMANS WHO ARE CLOSER TO DUMB ANIMALS THAN TO RATIONAL BEINGS. THE REASON FOR THEIR CHARACTERISTIC LEVITY,EXCITABILITY,AND GREAT EMOTIONALISM,ACCORDING TO IBN KHALDUN,IS DUE TO THE EXPANSION AND DIFFUSION OF THE ANIMAL SPIRIT IN THEM. THEY ARE THEREFORE REMOTE FROM THOSE OF HUMAN BEINGS AND CLOSE TO TO THOSE OF WILD ANIMALS. BLACKS ARE IGNORANT OF ALL RELIGIONS AND CANNOT BE CONSIDERED HUMAN BEINGS."

BEFORE ANY ONE JUMPS TO ANY CONCLUSION READ THE BOOK.

DOES IT GET YOUR ATTENTION?

ON PAGE 234 THE AUTHOR SAYS:" I AM AWARE SOME PEOPLE MIGHT ACCUSE THE WORK AS LACKING IN BALANCE IN SOME ISSUES I HAVE HGHLIGHTED IN ESPECIALLY CHAPTERS 3 AND 4."

"WE ALSO APPRECIATE CLAIMS BY MODERN MUSLIMS APOLOGIST THAT TRUE AND PURE ISLAM IS NOT WHAT SOME OR MANY OF ITS FOLLOWERS DO AND PRACTICE;RATHER,IT IS A SET OF TEACHINGS AND BELIEFS THAT ARE CONFIRMED BY THE DEEDS AND PRACTICE OF THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD,THE EARLY TRUE PIOUS MUSLIMS,AND THE GOOD,VIRTUOUS MUSLIMS OF ALL AGES."

ANOTHER PARAGRAPH: " IT HAS BEEN SUGGESTED IN RELATION TO THE ISSUES OF SLAVERY FOR INSTANCE,THAT TODAY'S ARABS [AND MUSLIMS IN GENERAL] SHOULD NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT WAS DONE IN THE PAST AND THAT THE BEST APPROACH IS TO SAY THAT IT WAS DONE BY OTHERS IN EUROPE AND AMERICA."

THIS IS WHAT THE AUTHOR PROPOSE FOR INTER-RELIGIOUS DIALOGUE.

MY DISCLAIMER IS THAT I RENOUNCE THE RACIST CONTENT BY NASIR al-DIN TUSI AND THAT OF IBN KHALDUN.

WE CAN SEE WHY SOME FOLK HAVE THIS RACIST IDEAS ABOUT AFRICAN PEOPLE OR FOLK THAT ARE SO-CALLED BLACK.

BOTH SO-CALLED CHRISTIANS AND SO CALLED MUSLIMS HAVE TO COME CLEAN ON THE RACIST MIND SET OF THE PAST AND IN SOME PLACES IT STILL IS THE NORM.

Manu Salah

salah Mateus · Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 852

IMPERIALISM OF RELIGION?

THE GREATEST FORCE & POWER OF IMPERIALISM IS NOT TAKEN OVER THE LAND BUT TAKEN OVER THE MIND OF THE PEOPLE.

YOU TAKE OVER THE MIND OF THE PEOPLE THEN YOU CONTROL THE LAND. HAVING AUTHORITY AND DOMINION BY GAINING CONTROL AND INFLUENCE AND COMMAND OF THOSE WHO BECOME YOUR MASTER BY THE WORD.

WHAT SOME MIGHT CALL AN EMPEROR OR A POPE OR FUHRER OR BY SOME OTHER NAME THAT MAKE A PERSON SUPREME IMPERIAL REGAL & IMPERIOUS.

COMPLETE SOVEREIGNTY,INFALLIBLE.

INCAPABLE OF ERROR IN DEFINING DOCTRINES TOUCHING FAITH OR MORALS.

seeking_one · Joined: 07 Apr 2009 Posts: 11

Peace Salah,
Excellent post. Many people think that YHWH's religion is called "Christianity" or "Judaism", etc. So people blindly follow these religions thinking they are honouring EL SHADDAI. All the religions of this world are man-made, but YHWH has A FAITH that is not of this world. It is THE FAITH and THE WAY of Holiness.

What is not taught and what has brain-washed many a people of color is that the THE WAY and THE TRUTH was given to the Men of Color (i.e. Hebrews ). Unfortunately, due to sin the majority of Hebrews have loss this knowledge and have taken upon themselves to learn of the ways of the "god" of this world.

Lu Mandjaco di Dulce · Joined: 07 Sep 2008 Posts: 433

seeking_one wrote:

Peace Salah,
Excellent post. Many people think that YHWH's religion is called "Christianity" or "Judaism", etc. So people blindly follow these religions thinking they are honouring EL SHADDAI. All the religions of this world are man-made, but YHWH has A FAITH that is not of this world. It is THE FAITH and THE WAY of Holiness.

What is not taught and what has brain-washed many a people of color is that the THE WAY and THE TRUTH was given to the Men of Color (i.e. Hebrews ). Unfortunately, due to sin the majority of Hebrews have loss this knowledge and have taken upon themselves to learn of the ways of the "god" of this world.

So if I correctly understand your thoughts THE FAITH is very selective when in fact the God of ALL the Universe should be extremely ECLECTIC.

So from now on I'm following God's selective way of showing HIS love and choose which among my six wonderful children DESERVE my love. The excluded ones can go to hell, die from starvation, sickness, be enslaved, suffer whatever wrath I feel I should bestow upon them. They have to work HARD to deserve my love and even then I might choose to dislike them. After all it is all they deserve. I, however require of them total obedience and FAITH in whatever I decide.

Ignorance is the mother of all SINS.

salah Mateus · Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 852

THEY ALSO SAY THAT IGNORANCE IS BLISS.

salah Mateus · Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 852

WHAT DO WE MEAN WHEN WE USE THE WORD GOD?

WHO GAVE MEANING TO THE WORD GOD OR ANY OTHER
WORD IN ANY OTHER LANGUAGE THAT MEANS THE SAME AS GOD?

BY THE MEANING OF WORDS DICTATED BY MAN;GOD IS TO MEAN SUPREME OR ULTIMATE REALITY,BEING PERFECT IN POWER.

ALSO TO MEAN A PERSON OR THING OF SUPREME VALUE OR A POWEFUL RULER.

THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER VARIABLES THAT CAN BE FOUND DEPENDING ON THE LANGUAGE OR TONGUE YOU SPEAK.

IN ARABIC GOD IS CALLED ALLAH. ONE OF THE MANY DEFINITIONS OF ALLAH IS TO SAY THE ALL IN ALL.

IN HEBREW (YHWH) YAHWEY,JEHOVAH,ADONAI AND MANY MORE.

THE FACT THAT SOME MEN IN HISTORY HAVE CHOSEN TO TELL US WHAT GOD MEANS AND THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES IN HISTORY MEN HAVE TAKEN THE NAME TO EMPOWER THEMSELVES OR THAT THEY SAY IN THERE MANY STORIES THAT THEY HAVE BEEN CHOSEN TO BE THE SPOKEPERSONS FOR GOD OR ALLAH, ETC,ETC.

THEN WE ARE TOLD THAT WE MUST HAVE FAITH IN ALL THAT THEY PONTIFICATE.

LET US THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A MOMENT.

MEN HAVE PLAYED GOD FOR YEARS OR HAVE PREACHED ABOUT GOD BUT HAS THAT BROUGHT US PEACE AND HARMONY?

THERE HAVE BEEN MANY GOOD MEN AND WOMAN THAT HAVE MADE SACRIFICES IN THE NAME OF GOD THAT WE MAY BE REMINDED TO DO GOOD AND TO THEM WE APPLAUD THEIR MIND OF RIGHT THINKING AND RIGHT ACTION AND TO HELP US TO BE RESPONSIBLE TO EACH OTHER WITH KINDNESS AND LOVE TO EACH OTHER.

MUCH GOOD HAS BEEN PUT INTO WORDS IN MANY DIFFERENT FORMS TO HELP US TO BE BETTER PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD.
IT IS ALSO WRITTEN THAT EVOLUTION IS THE FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLE OF LIFE IN THE UNIVERSE. IN EVOLUTION LIES THE BASIS FOR UNDERSTANDING OF EVERYTHING THAT COMES TO PASS WITHIN AND OUTSIDE THE REACH OF HUMAN PERCEPTION.

IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE HUMAN DESIRE IS TO HAVE JOY & HAPPINESS,PEACE AND HARMONY.

IT ALSO SEEMS TO ME THAT WE WOULD WANT THAT FOR ALL HUMANITY.

BUT NOT AT THE COAST OF KILLING OTHERS AND MAKENING OTHERS SUFFER AND BY EXPLOITATION,AND SOCIAL INJUSTICE AND OPPRESSION.

WHY IS IT THAT ARMIES ARE BLESSED TO KILL OTHERS?

PERHAPS THERE ARE THOSE WHO CAN HELP US TO UNDERSTAND.

MAYBE FOR ME I AM AGNOSTIC,BUT I AM TRYING TO BE REALISTIC.

NO NOT ONE IS RIGHTEOUS ALL HAVE FALLEN SHORT OF ULTIMATE GOOD(GOD)

WELL AT THIS MOMENT AND TIME ILIKE THE IDEA OF D.E.U.S.
DIALECTIC-ECLECTIC-UNIVERSAL- SCIENCE.

A,B,C,D,E.

ALLAH-BUDDHA-CHRISTO-DEUS-ELOHIM ALL HAVE SOMETHING GOOD.

I LIKE THE REALITY OF JESUS AND JASSI.

IN THE STATE OF TRANSFORMATION.

PERSONALLY I THINK THAT THE WAY I PERCEIVE GOD; MEANING GOOD,
THAT IT WOULD SHOW LOVE TO ALL,BUT THERE IS ALSO GRACE AND MERCY AND FORGIVNESS. MAY I ADD THAT GOD, LET SAY LIKE THE SUN SHINES ON THE JUST AS WELL AS ON THE UNJUST AND SHARE'S THE BREATH OF LIFE WITH ALL. BEING SELECTIVE IS OPTIONAL DEPENDING ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR KINDNESS.

PEACE BE UNTO YOU.

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salah Mateus · Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 852

The word FAITH has many variables and how it is used.

The same can be said about the word BELIEF AND BELIEVE.

That is a big difference in the word KNOW OR TO KNOW IN REALITY.

The saying, seeing is believing.

"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for,the evidence of things not seen".Hebrews11:1

It is also written that Jesus said:" Have faith in God.
For verily I say unto you,that whosoever shall say unto this mountain,Be thou removed,and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart,but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass;
he shall have whatever he saith." Mark 11:23

salah Mateus · Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 852

LET ME SHARE THIS WITH YOU.

THE CREATION OF ALL THAT IS THE SEEN AND THE UNSEEN.

THERE ARE EVEN ALTARS WITH THE INSCRIPTION TO THE UNKNOWN GOD.

KNOW THIS FACT AND THIS REALITY.

THIS WHICH YOU CALL GOD OR BY ANY OTHER NAME THAT MADE ALL IN ALL AND EVERTHING. THIS GOD OR ALLAH AS YOU CALL IT.

THAT IS TO SAY THE GRANDE FOCUS VIDA DE UNIVERSE FORCA SUPERIOR ASTRAL.

DOES NOT DWELL IN THE TEMPLES MADE WITH HANDS.

NOR IS HE OR SHE WORSHIPED WITH MEN'S HANDS,AS THOUGH HE NEEDED ANY THING,SINCE HE OR SHE GIVES TO ALL THINGS.

AND HE OR SHE HAS MADE FROM ONE BLOOD EVERY NATION OF MEN AND WOMAN TO DWELL ON ALL THE FACE OF THE EARTH, AND HAS DETERMINED THEIR PREAPPOINTED TIMES AND THE BOUNDRIES OF THEIR DWELLINGS. ACTS 17: 23 THRU 26 READ ON

DEUS ASTRA ALLAH ALI AZIZ YOUR BREATH OF LIFE.

BOA PAS.
LISTEN TO THE REALITY OF YOUR MORABEZA.

GRACA DE DEUS.
ENJOY AND BE HAPPY.

Manu Salah

DISCIPLE OF AMILCAR CABRAL (JASSI)
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salah Mateus · Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 852

You know we have had for more than a thousands years people who we
shall call churchmen to define what they wanted us to think reality was based on their interpretations and description of reality and they were wrong. Today the old world view is being challanged by men of science.

All the the things we took for granted now need new definition,especially when we are talking about the nature of God and our realtionship with God.

There has been for a long time a growing democratic spirit and a mass distrust of papal and royal authority.

That is why Cabral said we have our heads to think with.

Even today we have churchmen wanting us to accept the old antiquated
mode of thinking and speculation based on false speculation or so-called scriptual faith. The Romans the Greeks and others worked that philosophy
to control the massess. That is why Marx said that religion was the opium
of the people. I can say this that my teacher Amilcar Cabral and PAIGC taught me what I did not know. Still an yet churchmen want us to follow in the folly of falsity of such teachings.

Think about that.

Manu Salah

salah Mateus · Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 852

Please don't get me wrong;there was such a man as Jesus,who was a revolutionary and to free mankind of the ignorance of the churchman of his day,that is why he was crucified.

Jesus said this "If you love me,you will obey what I command. And I WILL ASK THE FATHER,AND HE WILL GIVE YOU ANOTHER COUNSELOR TO BE WITH YOU FOREVER-- THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH.

IT IS THAT TRUTH THAT CABRAL AND OTHERS SHARED WITH US.
GREAT MEN SUCH AS ARISTIDES PEREIRA,ABILO DUARTE AND OTHER MEN & (WOMAN)WHO WE CAN CALL THE APOSTLES OF DEUS.

THESE MEN & (WOMAN) ARE THE TRUE VINE AND WE ARE THE BRANCHES THAT TODAY BEAR FRUIT AND WE SHALL REMAIN IN THERE TEACHINGS.

I BEAR WITNESS.

Manu Salah