Mandioca is originaly from south-america
Corn is originaly from south-america
Beans is originaly from south america
guava is originaly from south-america
sweet patato are originaly from south-america
papaya is originaly from south-america

the exception is mangoe which is originaly from india.
the only obvious african vegetable are bananas and igname.

This makes as a fact, that cape-verdean food is mainly south-american (Maica don't be sad you will find something else to tell).

And South American food is from where?

LU, the corn, the manioc, the beans, the papaya, the gyava existed only in the americas untill 1500, when the portuguese and spanish arrived in south america, then they spread these vegetables to the other continents.

So cape-verdean food came from south-american and that breaks one of the fake arguments that were created by people like you to prove that cv is african...you and miaca have to find other arguments but you are running short.

apart from "caldo de peixe" I don't see a dish in cape-verde that is west african... and couscous might be an adaptation from north african couscous

catchupa, is portuguese following the same principle than the spanish paela

papaya and doces de papaya (fait de fines lamelles) is exactly the same than in brazil and colombia.

banana verde is eaten in south america and my venezuelan friends, it banana verde each week end.

goyava is from south america

and beans is defenitly not part of the african repertory.

Can we be a little more factual and a bit less philosophical? A little more precise and a little less broad? Try to pinpoint the beginnings of the CV dishes and I can guarantee you that you'll come back asking for forgiveness or disappear from this forum.

how can I be more precise than caldo-de-peixe and catchupa? did you already taste these "papaya doces"?

these are the most precise we can get. can you be more precise?

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did you already taste these "papaya doces"?

I was born in CV.

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how can I be more precise than caldo-de-peixe and catchupa? these are the most precise we can get.

No, it's not. You gave names of dishes.

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can you be more precise?

I'd like the history behind it. Throwing a word is not the same as knowing its genesis or etymology.

LU, I ,meant did you already tasted these doces de papaya? these that are made of "lamelles de papaye"? did you already tasted doce de coco? do you know if doce de coco is an african dessert? did you taste doce de goyava? is it that an african dessert?
Did you taste catchupa with a "pé de porco", and chorizo and favas and feijao vermelho? is it that an african dish?

Did you already drink a grogo or a ponch? is it that an african drink?

apart from caldo de peixe which is widely eaten in all subsaharan africa, papaya, goyava, doce de papaya, feijao, corn, batata doce....all these are from south america and even banana verde is eaten with fish in south-america.

independently of the fact that it is the land of my parents, objectibity makes me think that cape-verde is a third world country, if it had stayed part of portugal, and had received all the EU funds, probably it wouldn't but as a fact it is a third world country who has lost its freedom of movement in the world that was also one of the characteristics of a first world country.

but can you describe to me the food that you were used to eat in cape-verde and give me examples of african food that this cv food derives from. IO have shown that these foods mainly came from south-america can you show that the receipe came from senegal or guinea? does senegal or guinea do doce de papaya?

Do some research on Mandioca and Angola and then Brazil and Angola. There are your answers.

As I've been going back and forth with Sintanton, I'm starting to believe that he's right. Cape Verde IS Portugal and therefore should be re-integrated to Portugal. And using his logic, next week I'll write a letter to Nicolas Sarkozy asking for a referendum for France to be re-integrated to Germany. After all France lost more wars to Germany than one can count. And every time they were OCCUPIED. Lucky for them, Americans came to rescue them on 2 occasions. So as a French citizen I have the right to be what I want and German I'll be. France was doing fine when it was a Province of Germany, taking orders from Berlin. Dortmund being my favorite city, I'll live there. I hope my (then) girl friend Dagmar is still single.

LU, whatever, the origins of the africans of brazil, the fact is that mandioca didn't exist in africa before it was brought to africa from brazil...

what counts is the origins of the vegetable and when it has been introduced in that continent.
Most vegetables eaten in cv are from south america and have been introduced in africa after the discovery of America.

Peace and Blessings. I felt that the Record had to be set straight on this post. St Antao do you realize that South America was once a part of Africa prior to the Continental Drift? South America would have been South West AFrica. You might need to research Geology and some of the ancient maps of the world, they document a different world than what we know of it today. Do you realize that West Africans used to walk to America at one time? This ties into the History of the Olmecs who were indeed West Africans that migrated there and set up civilization. If you do research on Brazil, Bolivia, Peru you will find that they have a culture that is similiar to African/Moorish/Nubian culture. Some crops may have grown alot better in other regions as well as grown better after the Continent split which allowed it to drift to a more conducive area from where it was originally. Even if you research Mexican culture you will find that there are African/Moorish elements that are within their culture that connect with Portugal and Cabo Verdi. You have to remember Africans/Moors were known to be Navigators and Seafarers that traveled to other continents to explore. They brought crops there and took crops back to where they were living at the time. And again I state that these continents that we are calling North and South America were indeed a part of Africa at one time. Can you hear the phone ringing, its an African Wake Up Call.

In Salone(Sierre Leone) and Liberia mandioca is one of the staples along with Plantain(banana green).Also, you will find a variety of foods with influences from French,British,Arab,Italian,Spanish,Dutch and Portuguese in Africa.