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Publishing date: 09.02.2006 18:29

“Democracy” ain’t all it’s cracked up to be.

That seems to be the lesson in the archipelago nation of 10 islands in the Atlantic about 300 miles west of Senegal.

A presidential election is set there for Sunday.

G2B can tell you the results of that election in advance.

The ruling PAICV party will win – because the election is rigged.

Earlier this week, Cape Verde's National Electoral Commission released full results from last month's legislative polls, confirming the PAICV party took 41 seats in the islands' 72-seat National Assembly and maintained its overall majority.

Figures released Monday show the African Party for the Independence of Cape Verde took a 53.2 percent share of the Jan. 22 vote, compared to the 44 percent of votes obtained by the main MpD opposition, which returned 29 lawmakers to the National Assembly.

The Independent and Democratic Christian Union won the remaining two parliamentary seats up for grabs. Some 174,858 voters from a total electorate of 322,735 cast their ballots in the elections, giving the polls an abstention rate of 45.8 percent.

There was a good reason for the high absenteeism. Most of the nation’s population – largely Christian – chose not to participate in the pre-determined outcome of the sham election.

The MpD has already presented a challenge of the last vote, characterizing it as a "gigantic fraud."

The nation is a transit point between Western Europe and Southern Africa as well as Southern America. Therefore it is very strategic.

The U.S. – from the State Department to observers at the Wall Street Journal – have been fooled by the elections, even hailing them as a victory for “democracy.” The U.S. government has sent more than $110 million in aid to the government because of its pretenses toward democratic government.

The real story of Cape Verde, however, is one of Christian persecution and oppression by socialist thugs.

Years ago, leaders of the opposition were tortured at the hands of the communists in Cape Verde. Today's Cape Verdean government is simply a more sophisticated version with other tactics of manipulation and intimidation. The current regime has expelled some Christian ministers from Cape Verde. The government squelches free speech and other freedoms.

This is not journalism. This is propaganda. Journalists
don't make statements like, "freeedom of speech and other
freedoms are squelched" without showing some kind
of evidence or without showing the other side of the
story. Unless someone purposely left half of the story out??!
Fraud by 3000 votes? In a democratic process some win
and some lose. Let's see, ten years ago the opposition won,
was it fraud? Children, no name calling! What's wrong with
being a socialist As far as Christian ministers are concerned,
(I admire many of them), they are human like the rest of us.
Let's look back in history and see the role of the church in
"civilizing" our people. I urge people not to be so selfish that
they will defame Cape Verde so that they will not have to accept
defeat. Think of your country. If you think there's fraud there,
take a plane to the neighboring countries and then come
back and cry fraud.

It's sad for Cape Verde to be exposed as a nation of tyrants because of the corruption and fraud of PAICV. In fact, who could expect less from the PAICV elite? They all are wolves dressed up as sheeps. They are the same PAICV that torture thousands of people in Cape Verde for having different views and ideology then theirs in the 70s, 80s and 90s. They are the same old communists wannabes that held thousands Cape Verdeans in concentration camp like prisons, tortured them with their brutal and death weapon PM - Policia Militar. Their are the same ones that stole millions of dollars from the Cape Verdean people during 15 years, use the power to oppressed the poor farmer in Santo Antao and take their land and kill hundreds of them.

So, since their are the same ones back in power, including the father of all corruptions, Pedro Pires, who would expect fairness and democracy from these corrupt party? They are power thirsty and will do anything including fraud, killing it's own people to retain it. I bet you they will never loose any more elections in Cape Verde because they have a well trained corruption team to assure tthey will all the elections.

I was not surprised when I read this article because that's exactly what PAICV represents. THE SHAME OF CAPE VERDE.

MPD and Agostinho have proven with specific data that there was a massive fraud that turned the direction of the elections. Look at the Consul General in U.S.A. She violated the electoral laws and registered after the deadline, when she and the PAICV Corruption Sqaud would not allow people to register after then, and deny the right to vote to people that were registered because of her incompetence in having the electoral cards here on time for the elections. She should be fired from her position and shipped back to Cape Verde where corruption and incompetence is promoted and is a principle of the government of PAICV. US and the people that live here does not tolerate premiditated fraud and corruption.

I'm glad this time the fraudulent ways of PAICV was exposed by an independent source who does not have any ties with Cape Verde because if MPD said so, they would claim it's just the work of the opposition party.

This is what the real Cape Verde is nowadays. Tyrants, Dictators, that threaten people's life because they criticize PAICV's lack of transparency.
All those that are in favor, share the same vicious values as the ones in Power.
The truth must be told and spread. We should not be ashamed of being Cap verdians but we should be ashament to have such people in power as the ones that just won the elections.

i would just like to get to the meat and potatoes of this argument instead of focusing on the shells.

regarding tyrants? who, any proof?
Tells us the meat of the arguments instead of an opinionated statement.
give us the details. NOT JUST SOMETHING LIKE THIS, PEDRO PIRES IS A TYRANT.............WHAT DID HE DO?

where do you get statistics from, MOST PEOPLE DID NOT VOTE IS NOT A STATISTIC. ill give you the basis to start

peoplewhovote/actual population ====== that will give you the percentage that you need.

this is why NUNCA NU CA TA AVANCA PAMODI TEN CHEU BURROS KI SES VIDA E SO CRITICA E NUNCA FAZI NADA. MR. PSTEr, WHAT DID YOU DO IN REGARDS TO THE VOTING? I AM FOR NEITHER PARTY BUT I HATE BURROS. I DID NOT VOTE BECAUSE I FORGOT TO REGISTER. IF I HAD TO VOTE, IT WOULD NOT BE BASED ON POPULARITY but on WHAT EACH BRINGS TO THE TABLE.

READ "A TORTURA EM NOME DO PARTIDO UNICO" by Onesimo SILVEIRA.
It seems some people are lost in CLOUDS and just mazing NOISE. DON'T JUST BARK...INSTRUCT YOURSELF, GET EDUCATED BEFORE ASKING STUPID QUESTIONS. Unfortunately the majority of people who voted PAICV, and Pedro Pires are uneducated, and being manipulated like a chimp.
Raise above the level of mediocrecy Capeverdians!

Oh boy, where to start?
First we have an Anonimous who don't have the courage to show his face when accusing people of the worst misdeeds. By the way, are you a reincarnation of Joseph McCarthy? These allegations could very well be true but why not be adults and ask for an investigation rather than hiding behind "anonimous" & other movie names (Kane, are you a reincarnation of Orson Wells?).

If these are true facts and not, as I think people too passionate to accept defeat, then let's denounce it, let's be courageous enough to meet and take action. But please don't come here with allegations, bring facts.

Because the other side is going to tell you that the MPD did exactly the same thing some years ago, finados came out of their graves to vote, they will also tell you that the MPD started burning churches to turn people against the opposition. They'll tell you that the torture under the MPD reign was not physical but psychological. Opponents of the party are traffic-stopped every 100 meters for 1 hour or 2, death threats and the whole arsenal.

So to me it looks like neither party is very clean. I'll tell you this: how about creating a group that will watch both parties and denounce whatever they do? Because again, this looks more like sour grapes.
I'm open to any suggestions, but please do not come as anonymous or false names.

My real name is what you see here and I'm willing to go to the battle against anybody, PAICV or MPD. But before we find them guilty of anything let's have a trial and in the meantime give them some respect. After all they are our President and government. I happen to not agree with most of what they do, just as I did not agree with the MPD, however they were both elected (fraud or not) by the people and unless anybody can REALLY prove any wrondoing we should show some respect.

Anybody's up?

Jose Maria Neves, the Prime Minister of Cape Verde, is a great PM and an honest man - characteristic of the people from the interior of Santiago. However, his worst mistake was to appoint the old PAICV gang for his cabinet. These guys don't know how to govern whithout corruption and the old communist ways they learn for about 15 years when PAICV was an ally to the old Soviet Union.

They have just one way of thinking: ditactorship. And that unfortunately, put a dirty face to the government of J. Maria Neves and at the end they end up influencing him. I think for this new term, he should get rid off all the old PAICV gang and bring new and honest PAICV faces to the government to save his good name, reputation and the international image of Cape Verde.

Jose Maria don't you think it's a wise thing to do if you want to convince the US Goverment to give you another $110 Million for the next round of Millenium Challenge Account?

Just an advice from an old friend.

Just admit. MPD are a bunch of loosers and they lost. the Capeverdean people knows who you are and we don't believe your bunch of lies. the people of capeverde has spoken twice. PAICV won the election and MPD lost.

People, this is not about PAIV or MPD. The newspaper that published that article does not have nothing to do with PAICV or MPD.

This is about corruption and fraud in a country that portraits itself to the world as democratic and open to freedom. The people of Cape Verde should not accept this behavior neither from MPD or PAICV or from whomever.

We shouldn't let any of these parties damage the international image of Cape Verde after all these years of good work.

Speak up, my people. don't let others intimidate you. It's time for freedom and honesty.

Viva Amilcar cabral and the ideals of freedom he fought for.

VITÓRIA DE PEDRO PIRES


VITÓRIA DE CABO VERDE


OBRIGADO, CABOVERDIANOS!
VIVA CABO VERDE

VIVA PEDRO PIRES

CABO VERDE NO CORAÇÃO!

P.S. Hoje (Amanhã) vamos ouvir de um senhor que disse ter montado uma estrutura paralela para impedir a fraude, dizer que a sua estrutura paralela foi incapaz, incompetente, estúpida e inepta para impedir a fraude.

Vai pois proclamar que houve fraude e que vai continuar a ser presidente na clandestinidade por mais cinco anos.

Parabéns sr. Presidente clandestino. Continue a sua luta na sombra, onde sempre deve viver

I know amorcriolo. He is very young and grew up in the States. Although he does not know enough about CV, his mother and Pedro Pires are first cousins. A lot of people don't know what and how we lived in CV from exactly 1977 through 1990. The first two years PAIGC worked very well. Then the "Policia Politica" began persecuting people that did not agree with threir comunist ideals. I am one of their victim. I was in a BLACK LIST. I was so lucky to leave the country on time. Today, I am a proud US Citizen and "Nta mandáz boka" because in Cape Verde they don't know what democracy is about. They all talk about democracy now but they are COMUNISTS.
It's true that we have a lot ignorants people who voted for PAICV only because PP is from Fogo or because many of them did not have chance to come to the US ( no money, no education) but they were helped by their KAPANGAS to come.
Some came to investigate the immigrants that do not agree with PAIGC/CV and when they return home for vacation the policia politica was waiting for them for torture.
There are some people here in the States that I know abused many of our sisters and brothers in CV.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING HERE... They are againts Capitalism. Comunista na terra capitalista. Bandidos!!!....
The corruption has to be stopped!!
LABINA

Yes we have to stop the corruption, but how? If indeed there is any then we have to do what it takes to purge the system, and just talking about it isn't enough. In one of my posts I suggested that we stop sending money for some time and use our remittance as a leverage to get whatever we can for the good of the country.

Why not do that or something else, anything that could help?
Labina nha prima, bu sta parci chateada,

Frutuoso

These elections-legislative and presidential couldn't be fairer.There's a state-of-the-art techonology in cape verde.What we can do today in cape verde we couldn't do just ten years ago.The vote counting,is computerized today unlike,in previous elections.Pedro pires,was a better choice than carlos veiga and agostinho lopes' political skills are inferior to jose maria neves'.

-viva cabuverdianus y cabu verdi !

It seems a lot people supporting the Dictator are just blowing hot air. They open their mouth and all it comes out is garbage. Just like the party they support.

It is easy to conclude that those "numpties" didn't forget the shouting yet: Abaixo Capitalismo, Abaixo Imperialismo, Viva a Ditadura do Proletariado...and so on. The same old far turned around 360 degrees and is claiming to be a true democrat. Really...What a HYPOCRITE!!!
He is a Devil enpersonated, claiming he always loved the Cross.

Please Numpties, do yourself a favor. Go to the closest Laundry in town and get your brain washed with strongest detergent around. Only then you can talk about the Tyrant you support. You are lucky to live in this country (US) and still are unthankfull and praising torture for your brothers back in the islands.
You all are potential Terrorists. Remember that the Portuguese used to call them Terrorist? I guess we should revise that approach...
May be you all should go back to support him. REMEMBER: Back in the country they all voted in favor of real Democracy(MPD). They are the ones with the true vision of the country. The majority of immigrants, "estrangeirados" as he called us, are uneducated and brainwashed. Consequently we all have to pay a price to have a majority who cares about feeding their stomach only and not their brain. Living in a true democratic country(US) we are doing a BIG Harm to the country we came from by voting in the TERRORIST and a DICTATOR like Pedro Pires. ANother reminder: He is worse than Saddam Hussein. He can only be compared to Bin Laden! Tell me where you came from and I tell you why you sound so Stupid?

Now this is passion, raiba, odio. Looks like we only have highly opiniated people here. Opiniated enough to act instead of just "blowing air"? Opiniated enough to start something for the good of the country instead of only your well being? Good, let's start,

Frutuoso

And by the way Henrique Vagabundo Amorcriolo Runho Wijzer Nobel would you follow us? Sorry if I missed one of your many aliases.

Dear Frutuoso,

I guess you forgot something about PAICV, mainly because you never got to experience the pain of living in a society dictated by PAICV and Pedro Pires. For your own information, initiatives ;like the ones you suggest will NEVER work since they PAICV and PEDRO PIRES will never accept other people's idea or whatever. They ARE NOT USE to DEMOCRACY. The only language they Understand is DICTATORSHIP. Did you get my point?
Nice try, but with PAICV it won't work...therefore any initiative to correct this cancerous disease is "out of luck". THEY JUST ARE NOT used to accept other people's idea and initiative. They are ALL MIGHTY, Righteous and PERFECT...
GO TO Cape Verde and try something and see what will happen to you!
Good Luck my friend. JUST wish well for our country in the next 5 years.
May God have a MERCY on US!!!!

Frutuoso, Very true. I am not only angry but I am really mad because some people are still blind. I know what my family and I suffered in the hands of PAIGC/CV. You may not understand it because you were in France. I was in CV. I saw abuse with my own eyes; I saw torture; I was a victim. I am a calm person but sometimes this anger comes out. Why do they talk about democracy now? Democracy is very popular this year!!!!!
"Diabo a falar de Jesus". Lobos com pele de ovelha. I don't believe them. NEVER!!!! Maybe with a new cabinet.... Not with the "antigosos" that have no democratic culture.
iF YOU DON'T LIVE WHAT MY PEOPLE LIVED YOU WON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
Long life the people of Cape Verde!!!
Nkre nhos txeu!!!1
Labina

Let's not be fooled by that biased Journalist> What kind of Journalist is he? I think there is a better democracy in Cape Verde than there is in America. Can he present some evidences or just not be so passionate about incriminating others. A journalist like him deserves no credibility even if what he says has a little of truth in it.

No Journalist with a little sense of self-respect would be so quick to jump into conclusion when he can't present no facts other than opinions.
Opinion anyone has one, right or wrong.

I do not support PAICV or MPD but I support democracy for Cape Verde and I know through facts that there might be sporadic cases of iligality of total responsability of some irresponsible people, which I believe happens with both parties as part of fanaticism on the part of some individuals. I have been part of the voting Commitee for different elections in Cape Verde and I can tell you that what happens in CVerde happens anywhere even in America.

But saying that The complete government is corrupt is a shameful and blatant lie.

Can this Journalist make himself a favor and get some respect by doing his homework first before showing his anger towards other people.

This is not "O'Reily Factor"

Cabrala

Dispresidenciado, think of this: whether they like it or not, when money and goods from us become scarce and they find themselves with the back against the wall, they will HAVE to do something. We're not going to ask them for any favors, we're just trying to help the country get better. How do you think they pay the international debts, commerce and so on? Mainly with the money we send, so yes we have the means to do something.

And this something, I've been advocating it for a longtime. To me MPD and PAI are the same. You all are forgetting that most of the MPD members came from PAICV.

See, we can do something, so let's not lose faith.
Frutuoso

Well frutuoso,

Sounds like you are a very courageous man, but can you stop feeding your family if they depend on you since they lost their jobs back in Cape Verde because they don't support PAICV?
Did you know that if you support MPD in CV, means you are out of your job?
You can not STOP sending money to your families just to make your point across. The only way for them to STOP all this crap is for a country like US to stop supporting them, to STOP sending them 110 millions so can use some of that money during their Campaign...and so on. That's the only way. Another way is for us immigrants to get educated enough and learn the real facts about Cape Verde and choose our leaders not base on sympaty or favouritism, like in sports (Sporting or Benfica), but with a clear mind that we're doing the best for our country. Not selling our votes to those selfish, biased politicianas around here looking for some sort of reward if their Main GUY(Monster like PPires) gets elected.
That's my point of view and I stand for it!

Well said Cabrala. Although I personally think that some members of PAI are "malandros" I would caution people to not go too far in denouncing what may be difficult or impossible to prove. And as I said the other side has its black sheeps as well. I can understand the rage and passion shown here but I also think that we're going overboard.

What do we want to accomplish? True democracy and freedom for all (I think they already have that in CV, though you may disagree). What we want is to pressure the government and get them to create more jobs by negotiating better contracts with investors, more scholarships for EVERYBODY, etc...

And I want that from ANY government, ANY party.
Frutuoso

Dispresidenciado, I understand your point, but did you know that the unemployment rate was higher under the MPD than it was under the PAI? And you know why? Because when the MPD grabbed the power they thought they could govern CV like they would the US or France. BS.

How can you get rid, overnight of EMPA so that your uncle can control the commerce? How do you call that? How can you give the entire island of Sal to the Italians, which send back to Italy all the profit they make in CV? I heard even the emplyees come from Italy.

So to say that one is good and the other bad is to be blind, 'coz they are the SAME. Let's be serious people. Some of us are behaving like cheerleaders from one camp or the other.

Think of it,

Frutuoso

Frutuoso,
It seems to me that you are a very good person. However, I can see that you don't like MPD. You can be right. I do not criticise you because that. You may have your reasons.
Labina

Frutuoso,

I know you are misinformed about PAICV and Cape verde. EMPA was trashed under PAICV and not MPD.

The selling of SAL, and the whole country was just BS, the type of things PAICV cultivated in not so well informed people to get people spawn against MPD. I guess they did a hell of a JOB! I can see they got you by the hook...
What are they doing NOW? They're finishing off the selling of the SAL, and start selling Boavista to the Italians, Right? Don't tell me it is MPD...for crying aloud man...be real...at least once in your life!!!

Please get your facts straight, before making useless comments. You're buying their dirty tricks just like a TURTLE. Don't be fool man...Just do your Homework. Search and you'll find it...
You'll get the truth, if you're really seeking for it.
I don't take side like in sports. I am just a conscient individual with high standards and moral Values. I don't see the same in the party and people you support. Again you may ask for facts. I am sure thousands of people here can provide you these facts, that won't fit in any Univeristy's Library or bookstore.

That's all I can say. PAICV and Pedro Pires are the real enemies of Cape Verde. It will be too late before the people in the immigration realizes it. You Know something... They don't care because they are living a very comfortable life and who cares who they choose to be the leaders of our country? Unfortunately the majority are uneducated and only looking for food to feel their stomach...Bad destiny to belong to this generation of misinformed people....