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Kakau



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:58 pm    Post subject: 5 Historical Firsts Reply with quote

DA Soares: First CV and immigrant born DA of Albany County, NY. Elected Nov.04. DA Soares is the second blackman to have been elected District Attorney in the history of New York state. The DA of Bronx County was the first and the only other black DA in the entire state of New York.



DA Kamala Harris: First Female and African American DA(San Francisco) in the state of California. Elected December 03.



DA Craig Watkins: First African American District Attorney(Dallas County) in the State of Texas. Elected Nov06



DA Jordan: First African American District Attorney(New Orleans) in the history of Louisiana. Elected Nov04. DA Jornan is controversially known for having fired most of the white prosecutors from his predecessor's tenure and replaced them with Black ADAs.



DA Howard: First African American District Attorney(Fulton County) in the State of Georgia. Elected Nov.98



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St_antao



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

affirmative action is working well
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They were all elected. Affirmative Action couldn't have been a factor.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

affirmative action starts at school and at the university. The goal of affirmative action, was to allow the us society to produce black politicians, lawyers, professors, writers, sociologist... Now in 2006 the results of this policy, started on the 70ies, is very "visible". Affirmative action works and now america is producing a very bright "black intelligencia".
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are not products of Affirmative Action. They are the result of hard-work and diligence.
DA Harris(Howard University) and DA Jordan(Morehouse College) and DA Howard(Morehouse) all went to historically black colleges(HBCUs). Do you suppose they were admitted into those colleges because of Affirmative Action?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose that no matter how good they are, they would never had reached this level of achievement before the affirmative action. affirmative action is there to open the doors to the bright blacks.

As a proof, you have a list of "first-time" black DA and all of these first timers are starts around 2000. If I was wrong, there might be much more first-timers DA before the 70ies affirmative action. Do you have example of first timers DA before affirmative action. If not are the black americans smarter now than before the 70ies...I doubt...so it is the result of affirmative action.

affirmative action is there to open the doors to the bright blacks people.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look man, all of these black DAs beat white opponents in very bitter campaigns. The people voted for them because they saw more promise and potential from them. So, it's not affirmative action, it's actually a sign of decrease in prejudice among voters, particularly white voters. In the past, white voters wouldn't have voted for a black candidade over a white one even if the black candidade was clearly better qualified. That's changing. Enter Deval Patrick and the Black DAs mentioned here.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

maica,

you are just observing that the african-americans have more opportunities and more responsabilities. But you are not smart enough to try to understand why? are you?

It is clear that blacks are less stigmatised in the usa and now can reach high levels of responsabilities, the reason I sea is the results of the affirmative action, whose goal was to allow bright black-americans to have access to "powerfull positions" in the us. It took 30 years to have effects. I think also that "september 11" united a little bit more the american population against a common ennemy, and this allowed the blacks to be integrated better.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look, black people have been succeding in this country ever since 1619. There have been a class of black doctors, lawers, engineers, writers, teachers and so forth for more than 300 years in the United States. Now, when it comes to African American representation on the legal profession from the state and county end, it's a different story. The reason only now we are beginning to see Black District Attorneys(DAs) and Black Chief Sheriffs which are elected positions is because racial politics are changing. No longer will someone beat a black candidate because he's white and male. If you ask DA Soares or Sheriff Andrea Cabral or DA Harris or DA Watkins, they'd tell you the same thing. This is change in the legal realm as we know it. Change happens regardless of outside factors, it's inevitable. In other words, even if Affirmative Action never existed or 911 hadn't happened, these Black DAs and Sheriff Andrea Cabral would still be in their positions today.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maica, what is the reason why things are changing now and not before? I don't have the slightest idea?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reason you don't have the slightest idea why things are changing now and not then, even though I've explained it to you, is bescause you are not intelligent enough to grasp my explanations. Your limited intellect impedes you from understanding.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol,

I did a mistake when I wrote the previous message, lol

please read "maica, what is the reason why things are changing now and not before? You don't have the slightest idea?"

maica, you are telling that things change...is it an explanation? are you smart enough to make conjectures? If so do it about he reasons why there is suddenly several black DA...untill now your explanations are poor...which makes me understand why you have a so bad idea of "affirmative action", you are the dark side of "affirmative action".
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the last time, these are elected officials. The people voted for them. And three of them went to historically black colleges. So your correlation of Affirmative Action and their success doesn't make sense. If they were appointed, then I would have considered your arguments more favorely, but.... oh, well.....
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stop trying to avoid the topic,

tell me what according to you is the reason why there is all these black people elected?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not going to waste my time with you anymore, since you obviously lack even the basics of reading comprehension. If that wasn't the case you'd have grasped the explanations given by me time and again in the preceding posts.
Consider this the last time I reply to your asinine posts.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you have nothing to tell, don't come back Laughing
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