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St_antao · Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 716 Location: FR

Why is there this hangers against Portugal?

there is a lot of historical sources that will confirm that Portugal was a very poor country until 1975 (and until 1986 when it joined the EU). The poverty of Portugal explains why Cape Verde was very poor as well.
There is a lot of people here that infer the idea that Portugal was a rich country that was not willing to help Cape Verde and that was doing in purpose to let famines spread in Cape Verde. This question has to be solved.

Did Portugal let Cape Verde starve or this happened first because Cape Verde is in a dry area prone to droughts and that Portugal was a very poor country that couldn't afford to solve this problem? furthermore Portugal was leaded by an undemocratic totalitarian fascist government that was suffocating all the Portuguese population (mainland and adjacent islands). Is it fair to infer the idea that Portugal was doing in purpose to let Cape Verde in poverty? Wasn't Portugal itself a poor country? wasn't Portugal a mainly illiterate country until 1950-1970? wasn't Portugal a country without opportunities sending millions of Portuguese people to emigrate in France?
At the independence was the difference between mainland Portugal and Cape Verde so big? I doubt, but I would like to know the truth.

Lu Mandjaco di Dulce · Joined: 07 Sep 2008 Posts: 433

St_antao wrote:

Why is there this hangriness against portugal?

there is a lot of historical sources that will confirm that portugal was a very poor country untill 1975 (and untill 1986 when it joined the EU). The poverty of portugal explains why cape-verde was very poor as well.
There is a lot of people here that infer the idea that portugal was a rich country that was not willing to help cape-verde and that was doing in purpose to let famines spread in cape-verde. This question has to be solved.

Did Portugal let capeverde starve or this hapenned first because cape-verde is in a dry area prone to droughts and that portugal was a very poor country that couldn't afford to solce this problem? furthermore portugal was leaded by an undemocratic totalitorian facist government that was suffocating all the portuguese population (mainland and adjacent islands). Is it fair to infer the idea that portugal was doing in purpose to let cape-verde in poverty? Wasn't portugal itself a poor country? wasn't portugal a mainly illiterate country untill 1950-1970? wasn't portugal a country without opportunities sending millions of portuguese people to emmigrate in France?
At the idependance was the difference between mainland portugal and cape-verde so big? I doubt, but I would like to know the truth.

If we follow your logic and say that CV is indeed part of the adjacent islands belonging to Portugal, it really should be adjacent as the definition of adjacent is: next to or adjoining something else, neighboring, next-door, abutting, contiguous, proximate; (adjacent to) close to, near, next to, by, by the side of, bordering on, beside, alongside, attached to, touching, cheek by jowl with.
Distance between Praia and Lisbon: 1861.42 miles.
Distance between Praia and Dakar: 406.13 miles.
Did you say adjacent?

salah Mateus · Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 852

Mandjaco Lu. my friend.

Some people will never get over their coloniailst mentality.

They will take it with them to their grave.

Just as there is a change going on in Cabo verde and all the ex-colonies there is one going on in Portugal.

The struggle for liberty in all the the past Colonies from Portugal,set a new prescedence that is to say that a new priority in the new avant-garde
politics for both Portugal and those African nations.

What some folk have a difficult time is that the young turks ( Portuguese
Officer's) who were with Cabral and the over all movement of the people
in at that time members of the Portugal Socialist or Communist party and the new Portugal Democratic party made a flower Revolution in Portugal with Roses in the barrel of teir guns in April I think it was in the first part of 1974 or late 1973 I am not sure of the year.

Lu many Portuguese Portuguese were out in the streets of Lisbon and all over Portugal with great pride for the turn over in the old politics.
People were dancing in the street.

As a matter of fact some Portugese were fleeing from Portugal and from Cabo Verde and from Angola and from Guinea to France and to England and to the USA and other countries especially those who were agents of Pide or Pide colaborator's. They had to go and hide.

Therefore it is of no use to argure with some one of that mind set.

It was not just some Portugueses people who had that mind set but also some from Cabo Verde.
Here in the USA there was a group called The Cabo Verde Federation that tried along with there Portuguese counter parts(Continental Portugal Group) to fight against PAIGC and Cabral. But they lost that Battle. A group of CV Lawyers headed by Att. Texieira and his son also an Attorney along with a CV man Viega from Angola which from what I understand he was a wealthy business man( Jose Viega) in Angola and a Uncle to Former Prime Minister Carlos Whanon Veiga.

That group was defeated by the (PAIGC Support Committe USA) at a conference at a big Hotel in Boston in the early 70's, they to were rascals in behalf of Portugals colonial system.

They were surrogate appointed to fight against Cabral & PAIGC.

Just a little history that I was a part of back in the dayfor the liberation of Cabo Verde,it was there plan to stay with Portugal.

Manu Salah

St_antao · Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 716 Location: FR

madeira and canarias are closer to african than cape-verde, so your example of km sparating cv from other lands doesn't work.

Adjacent works if it is close enough and that it has the relevant links, I am sorry for you but cv doesbn't have links with senegal, nor with guinea bissau. The macaronesian islands have a link with portugal, and are close enough to portugal to be qualified as adjacent

Lu Mandjaco di Dulce · Joined: 07 Sep 2008 Posts: 433

St_antao wrote:

madeira and canarias are closer to african than cape-verde, so your example of km sparating cv from other lands doesn't work.

Adjacent works if it is close enough and that it has the relevant links, I am sorry for you but cv doesbn't have links with senegal, nor with guinea bissau. The macaronesian islands have a link with portugal, and are close enough to portugal to be qualified as adjacent

Adjacent is adjacent, no matter how much revision you want to bring to the dictionary. But I've seen you make so many contradictory statements on the same topic that maybe you're about to re-invent the English language. These are things we all see as NONSENSICAL, because only in your mind do they make any sense. And Revisionism is still an euphemism for revanchism or irredentism, the desire to recover the territory of a nation lost in war.

St_antao · Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 716 Location: FR

you are just lost and confused, you accuse all the portuguese people for what salazar did, you think that mandica and papaya originaly comes from africa, you think that the concept of adjacent can apply to two territorries that have not link...you are in the wrong direction and spreading lies...macaronesia is adjacent to portugal, because that is the country they are related to.

Lu Mandjaco di Dulce · Joined: 07 Sep 2008 Posts: 433

St_antao wrote:

you are just lost and confused, you accuse all the portuguese people for what salazar did, you think that mandica and papaya originaly comes from africa, you think that the concept of adjacent can apply to two territorries that have not link...you are in the wrong direction and spreading lies...macaronesia is adjacent to portugal, because that is the country they are related to.

Adjacent is not a concept, it's an adjective. Concept is an abstract idea, a general notion, a plan or intention, a conception, an idea or invention to help sell or publicize a commodity, which is EXACTLY what you've been trying to sell for the longest time.

St_antao · Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 716 Location: FR

if everything has to be taken as it is in the dictionary,

the africa is a continent, and cape verde is a group of islands, therfore cape-verde is not africa...

but of course your dictionnary example is a nonsense, as always your are trying but you can't, it is difficult for you

St_antao · Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 716 Location: FR

cv, azores canarias, and madeira are adjacent to iberia...period

Lu Mandjaco di Dulce · Joined: 07 Sep 2008 Posts: 433

St_antao wrote:

cv, azores canarias, and madeira are adjacent to iberia...period

So the CONCEPT has died?

Lu Mandjaco di Dulce · Joined: 07 Sep 2008 Posts: 433

St_antao wrote:

if everything has to be taken as it is in the dictionary,

the africa is a continent, and cape verde is a group of islands, therfore cape-verde is not africa...

but of course your dictionnary example is a nonsense, as always your are trying but you can't, it is difficult for you

When you lack facts to support your arguments you go back to a powerfully nonsensical nonsense which of course is a nonsensical pleonasm.

St_antao · Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 716 Location: FR

you are the one that refuse to recognise the adjacent islands as a real concept, I din't invent it, it was the way macaronesia was called by portiugal, 50 years ago and probably before as well

Lu Mandjaco di Dulce · Joined: 07 Sep 2008 Posts: 433

St_antao wrote:

you are the one that refuse to recognise the adjacent islands as a real concept, I din't invent it, it was the way macaronesia was called by portiugal, 50 years ago and probably before as well

ASSIMILATION.

St_antao · Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 716 Location: FR

assimilation is consubstancial to latin countries/cultures, spain, portugal and france promote assimilation because they are latin countries, spain assimilated south-americans to the spanish culture. portugal assimilated brazil, capeverde, goa, macao to the portuguese culture, france assimmilates all the immigrants that come to its soil...

assimilation is the ethos of latinity.

this doesn't make less macaronesia an adjacent group of islands to iberia. and this concept takes ebven more strength if the people living in these adjacent islands have iberian origins, which is our case.

Lu Mandjaco di Dulce · Joined: 07 Sep 2008 Posts: 433

salah Mateus wrote:

Mandjaco Lu. my friend.

Some people will never get over their coloniailst mentality.

They will take it with them to their grave.

Just as there is a change going on in Cabo verde and all the ex-colonies there is one going on in Portugal.

The struggle for liberty in all the the past Colonies from Portugal,set a new prescedence that is to say that a new priority in the new avant-garde
politics for both Portugal and those African nations.

What some folk have a difficult time is that the young turks ( Portuguese
Officer's) who were with Cabral and the over all movement of the people
in at that time members of the Portugal Socialist or Communist party and the new Portugal Democratic party made a flower Revolution in Portugal with Roses in the barrel of teir guns in April I think it was in the first part of 1974 or late 1973 I am not sure of the year.

Lu many Portuguese Portuguese were out in the streets of Lisbon and all over Portugal with great pride for the turn over in the old politics.
People were dancing in the street.

As a matter of fact some Portugese were fleeing from Portugal and from Cabo Verde and from Angola and from Guinea to France and to England and to the USA and other countries especially those who were agents of Pide or Pide colaborator's. They had to go and hide.

Therefore it is of no use to argure with some one of that mind set.

It was not just some Portugueses people who had that mind set but also some from Cabo Verde.
Here in the USA there was a group called The Cabo Verde Federation that tried along with there Portuguese counter parts(Continental Portugal Group) to fight against PAIGC and Cabral. But they lost that Battle. A group of CV Lawyers headed by Att. Texieira and his son also an Attorney along with a CV man Viega from Angola which from what I understand he was a wealthy business man( Jose Viega) in Angola and a Uncle to Former Prime Minister Carlos Whanon Veiga.

That group was defeated by the (PAIGC Support Committe USA) at a conference at a big Hotel in Boston in the early 70's, they to were rascals in behalf of Portugals colonial system.

They were surrogate appointed to fight against Cabral & PAIGC.

Just a little history that I was a part of back in the dayfor the liberation of Cabo Verde,it was there plan to stay with Portugal.

Manu Salah

Indeed my friend, at least we now know that Cabral liberated Portugal.
I was in France when all that happened. Tears of joy came to my eyes as my father showed his "Portuguese Soul" by not commemorating the historical moment. I envy those like you who were there. But we finally WON and today NOBODY's dying of hunger.

St_antao · Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 716 Location: FR

today nobody is dying of hunger, because the international aid is coming from portugal,the EU, and the USA.

Portugal was the poorest country of europe at the end of salazar reign, and had cape-verde stayed with portugal, cape-verde would be now far ahead because the EU, would have funded all the cv development. The EU gives to its memeber through its EU development fund, money that is not a loan, this money doesn't have to be given back to the EU, and therefore there is no debt for the country that receives it.

In the countrary, now that cape-verde is independent, it is heavily relying in international aid, and it is in debt because the international help is a loan that has to be paid back.

For sure cv is better than undre the facist government of salazar but it is worst than if it had stayed part of portugal, capeverde would be better than canry or azores right now. SO Cabral did a mistake to promote the independance of cape-verde and this against the willing of the cape-verdeans and your father is one example of the cabral trahison....

Lu Mandjaco di Dulce · Joined: 07 Sep 2008 Posts: 433

St_antao wrote:

assimilation is consubstancial to latin countries/cultures, spain, portugal and france promote assimilation because they are latin countries, spain assimilated south-americans to the spanish culture. portugal assimilated brazil, capeverde, goa, macao to the portuguese culture, france assimmilates all the immigrants that come to its soil...

assimilation is the ethos of latinity.

this doesn't make less macaronesia an adjacent group of islands to iberia. and this concept takes ebven more strength if the people living in these adjacent islands have iberian origins, which is our case.

I did not ask for the definition of assimilation. I explained the reason behind the adjunction of CV in the Macaronesia scam.

Lu Mandjaco di Dulce · Joined: 07 Sep 2008 Posts: 433

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today nobody is dying of hunger, because the international aid is coming from portugal,the EU, and the USA.

And back then Portugal prevented the same aid from reaching CV. It's called crime against HUMANITY. And what you're doing today is a crime against my SANITY.

St_antao · Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 716 Location: FR

back then portugal, was the poorest country of europe and was leaded by a backward facist government.

that's why capeverde is better now than under this backward government. if cape-verde had stayed part of portugal, it would be at least as developped as azores or canarias.

salah Mateus · Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 852

My Dearest Friends this is what we mean about the rascal,no
matter what anyone says he will constantly make nonsense
out of his retarded argument.

Why he insist that we dislike Portugal or that we are proAfricanist and against Portugal is a sickness of that persons mind. He is delusional.

A persistent false psychotic belief of his personal propaganda in which he accuses all of us. I AM FEELING SORRY FOR THE POOR FELLOW.

He maintains that same line of thinking despite indisputable evidence to the contrary. I am truly sorry for you and I HOPE THAT EVERY ONE WILL DESIST IN THIS CONVERSATION WITH THIS YOUNG MAN WHO SEEMS TO BE HURTING SOMETHING AWFUL.

It seems that he is a very desperate young man. It is a wounded person that is desolate and in great despair.

There is no one in Portugal in there right mind who would agree with him.
With all that talk he would not feel comfortable in Portugal or in Cabo Verde.

We don't hate Portugal or the Portuguese people we have said that over and over again. We feel your pain. Your not a rascal I am sorry. You need help. It must be very difficult for you.

Our struggle was never against the Portuguese people,Amilcar Cabral made that very clear. It was because of Amilcar Cabral and other men like Soares,and General Vasco Goncalves and many in the MOVIMENTO das Forcas Armada militantes e simpatizantes.

General Vasco Goncalves spoke at a mass meeting in Portugal. In the name of the people of Portugal and he said:

" I SAY TO YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF OUR HEARTS: LONG LIVE THE INDEPENDENCE OF CAPE VERDE.!" IT WAS A MOMENT TO REMEMBER THOSE PORTUGESE WHO HAD COURAGEOUSLY LED THE WAY OUT OF DICTATORSHIP, AND ACCEPTED THAT DEMOCRACY WITHOUT DECOLONIZATION COULD BE NO DEMOCRACY WORTH HAVING.

THEY HAD NOT DONE IT EASILY. THEY HAD DONE IT BY THROWING OFF THE MENTAL HABITS OF THEIR CHILDHOOD AND OVERCOMING THE FURY OF THEIR OPPONENTS AT HOME, THE RIDICULE OF THEIR ELDERS AND THE MALICE OF A WHOLE WORLD OF YESTERDAY."

"When Vasco Goncalves spoke in Cape Verde he found an audience who loved him for what he said,and rejoiced to find in Portugal a people that wished to be friends and not masters."

This information is in the book THE FORTUNATE ISLES [A STUDY IN AFRICAN TRANSFORMATION] BY BASIL DAVIDSON PAGE 125.

SO WITH LOVE FOR UNITY AND KINDNESS FOR FRIENDSHIP MY DEAR MAN;WHO CALLS HIMSELF ST_ANTAO CAN WE BE FRIENDS.

LIKE VASCO GONCALVES SAID "TO BE FRIENDS AND NOT MASTERS"

GOD BLESS YOU MY SON.

Manu Salah O.Mateus

salah Mateus · Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 852

St_antao wrote:

back then portugal, was the poorest country of europe and was leaded by a backward facist government.

that's why capeverde is better now than under this backward government. if cape-verde had stayed part of portugal, it would be at least as developped as azores or canarias.

CABO VERDE IS DEVELOPING EVERY DAY,WE ARE COMING SLOWLY OUT OF THE ASHES OF THE RUINS. LIKENED TO THE PHOENIX

LIKE THAT LEGENDARY BIRD WE WILL RISE. IT IS A LABOR OF LOVE.

KRUNG KRUNG.

CABO VERDE IS A TREASURE BEING BUILT IN THE ATLANTIC OCEAN.

ALL EYES OF THE WORLD ARE UPON US. WE ARE LIKE A WOMAN GIVING BIRTH TO A NEW CHILD AND WE ARE IN TRAVAIL.

OUR PHYSICAL EXERTION IS A PIECE OF WORK OUR TASK AND OUR EFFORTS WILL BE COMPLETED AS WE OVER COME THE CHALLENGES.

IN THIS BIRTH. TO BE BORN AGAIN. IN THIS EMERGENCE LIKE A BEAUTIFUL LOCUST FLOWER. THE LOCUS IN THE SEA FOR ALL THE WORLD TO SEE AND MARVEL. AS WE SING OUR FREEDOM SONG
SOL SOL e VERDE.

AS WE SIT AMONG THE HILLS,SHARING THE PEACE AND SERENITY AND WE WILL DANCE IN OUR MORABEZA AND OUR HEARTS SINGS IN THE SILENCE OF THE LOVE OF DEUS..
WE CAN HEAR THE VOICES OF ANGELS FROM ST ANTAO TO DJA-BRAVA.
GRACA de DEUS
Manu Sallah

Lu Mandjaco di Dulce · Joined: 07 Sep 2008 Posts: 433

salah Mateus wrote:

St_antao wrote:

back then portugal, was the poorest country of europe and was leaded by a backward facist government.

that's why capeverde is better now than under this backward government. if cape-verde had stayed part of portugal, it would be at least as developped as azores or canarias.

CABO VERDE IS DEVELOPING EVERY DAY,WE ARE COMING SLOWLY OUT OF THE ASHES OF THE RUINS. LIKENED TO THE PHOENIX

LIKE THAT LEGENDARY BIRD WE WILL RISE. IT IS A LABOR OF LOVE.

KRUNG KRUNG.

CABO VERDE IS A TREASURE BEING BUILT IN THE ATLANTIC OCEAN.

ALL EYES OF THE WORLD ARE UPON US. WE ARE LIKE A WOMAN GIVING BIRTH TO A NEW CHILD AND WE ARE IN TRAVAIL.

OUR PHYSICAL EXERTION IS A PIECE OF WORK OUR TASK AND OUR EFFORTS WILL BE COMPLETED AS WE OVER COME THE CHALLENGES.

IN THIS BIRTH. TO BE BORN AGAIN. IN THIS EMERGENCE LIKE A BEAUTIFUL LOCUST FLOWER. THE LOCUS IN THE SEA FOR ALL THE WORLD TO SEE AND MARVEL. AS WE SING OUR FREEDOM SONG
SOL SOL e VERDE.

AS WE SIT AMONG THE HILLS,SHARING THE PEACE AND SERENITY AND WE WILL DANCE IN OUR MORABEZA AND OUR HEARTS SINGS IN THE SILENCE OF THE LOVE OF DEUS..
WE CAN HEAR THE VOICES OF ANGELS FROM ST ANTAO TO DJA-BRAVA.
GRACA de DEUS
Manu Sallah

AMEN.

St_antao · Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 716 Location: FR

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Lu Mandjaco di Dulce · Joined: 07 Sep 2008 Posts: 433

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salah Mateus · Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 852

St_antao wrote:

madeira and canarias are closer to african than cape-verde, so your example of km sparating cv from other lands doesn't work.

Adjacent works if it is close enough and that it has the relevant links, I am sorry for you but cv doesbn't have links with senegal, nor with guinea bissau. The macaronesian islands have a link with portugal, and are close enough to portugal to be qualified as adjacent

we are going to take them back too Laughing

they belong to Africa but we will leave it in the hands of those who got it for now. Cool

All we need to do is to send several thousands African there and we will take it by population Laughing

Why don't you come and be with us You can teach Portugueses history Cool

St_antao · Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 716 Location: FR

I told you, the concept of adjacent, is relevant only if there is a link between the islands and a country nearby. For now, macaronesia is adjacent to iberia, but if the people from africa settle there and change the culture of the islands so that it becames overwhelmingly african, then the macaronesia will become adjacent to africa period. For now Macaronesia is adjacent to iberia.

Lu Mandjaco di Dulce · Joined: 07 Sep 2008 Posts: 433

As I've been going back and forth with Sintanton, I'm starting to believe that he's right. Cape Verde IS Portugal and therefore should be re-integrated to Portugal. And using his logic, next week I'll write a letter to Nicolas Sarkozy asking for a referendum for France to be re-integrated to Germany. After all France lost more wars to Germany than one can count. And every time they were OCCUPIED. Lucky for them, Americans came to rescue them on 2 occasions. So as a French citizen I have the right to be what I want and German I'll be. France was doing fine when it was a Province of Germany, taking orders from Berlin. Dortmund being my favorite city, I'll live there. I hope my (then) girl friend Dagmar is still single.

Lu Mandjaco di Dulce · Joined: 07 Sep 2008 Posts: 433

As I've been going back and forth with Sintanton, I'm starting to believe that he's right. Cape Verde IS Portugal and therefore should be re-integrated to Portugal. And using his logic, next week I'll write a letter to Nicolas Sarkozy asking for a referendum for France to be re-integrated to Germany. After all France lost more wars to Germany than one can count. And every time they were OCCUPIED. Lucky for them, Americans came to rescue them on 2 occasions. So as a French citizen I have the right to be what I want and German I'll be. France was doing fine when it was a Province of Germany, taking orders from Berlin. Dortmund being my favorite city, I'll live there. I hope my (then) girl friend Dagmar is still single.

St_antao · Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 716 Location: FR

double copy-paste Laughing

you are losing your inspiration, run short of words?

Lu Mandjaco di Dulce · Joined: 07 Sep 2008 Posts: 433

St_antao wrote:

Why is there this hangriness against portugal?

there is a lot of historical sources that will confirm that portugal was a very poor country untill 1975 (and untill 1986 when it joined the EU). The poverty of portugal explains why cape-verde was very poor as well.
There is a lot of people here that infer the idea that portugal was a rich country that was not willing to help cape-verde and that was doing in purpose to let famines spread in cape-verde. This question has to be solved.

Did Portugal let capeverde starve or this hapenned first because cape-verde is in a dry area prone to droughts and that portugal was a very poor country that couldn't afford to solce this problem? furthermore portugal was leaded by an undemocratic totalitorian facist government that was suffocating all the portuguese population (mainland and adjacent islands). Is it fair to infer the idea that portugal was doing in purpose to let cape-verde in poverty? Wasn't portugal itself a poor country? wasn't portugal a mainly illiterate country untill 1950-1970? wasn't portugal a country without opportunities sending millions of portuguese people to emmigrate in France?
At the idependance was the difference between mainland portugal and cape-verde so big? I doubt, but I would like to know the truth.

Santa, in or around 1960, my beloved mother was about to "santa praça", sign a contract, to go to Sul, São Tomé. She was at the Cais, dock, ready to santa praça to go to that hell called Sul, so that we wouldn't die of hunger. There must be a God somewhere because somebody tried to kidnap me, and my mom ran after the lady and got me back. When she came back, the boat was full and she was told to come back the following week. She never went back as my hero nho Branquinho Musgo, my grand father weekly gave my mother a Val, an order form the State store to get food so that would never happen again.

Now, fast forward to the day José Maria Neves cried when he saw the condition in which the Capeverdeans who santa praça, like my mom almost did, were living. Listen Boy, I'm crying as I write this, I'm crying imagining my brothers and sisters who were sent to the jungles of São Tomé because these motherfuckers Tugas promoted that so that they could take the coffee and the cocoa and sell those to build the army that would alloe them to kill us. I'm crying because ignorants like you roam forums spreading falsehood, talking about what they heard and they don't have the decency of trying to find out by themselves if it is true or not. I was there in CV, my body sometimes feel the hunger from the past. At the age of 5 or 6 I passed out because I hadn't eaten for 2 days. Does this sound funny to you? You have no decency?

You go from forum to forum trying to convince yourself that the lies you were told were true. You were born in a rich country, wasting more food that I dreamt of seeing, you lived near the best schools one can imagine and all you took from all that is the highest form of ignorance a human being can show. There's no excuse for that, none whatsoever. You're a vile being. Everything was there for you to take and you chose the dark side. Damn you and your peers.

Back in 2003 when you were still a Barbosa and could barely write English (not that you're much better now, it all depends on who or what is proofreading your posts as they're good one day and very bad the next) you were already developing this obsession with this whole nonsense. Five years into your pathology, you never had the curiosity to CHECK your claims. Seu burro. Disgusting.