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Should St_Antao be banned from this forum?
Yes he must go to clear the road to productive discussions.
90%
 90%  [ 9 ]
No, he brings valuable contribution to this forum.
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
No, give him a warning and if he violates the code of conduct again, ban him forever.
10%
 10%  [ 1 ]
Total Votes : 10

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Vulkon di Fogo



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:09 am    Post subject: Vote: Should St_Antao be banned from this forum? Reply with quote

The user that goes by St_Antao has been a trouble maker since he joined this forum in 2006. He is not into the spirit of most user of this forum which is to have honest discussions about issues related to Cape Verdeans in order help in the advancement of our people. He keeps turning away people that comes to this forum with good intention. In fact he's more of a disturbance that a contribution to this forum.

So, I think it's right that the participants of this forum decide if they want to see him around or not. Your decision will be respected and followed.

This poll will be end on Wednesday February 13, 2008, where the forum moderators will take the appropriate action based on your vote. Thank you.
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salah Mateus



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:37 pm    Post subject: Dadona said: Ku Fei Nah Deus> I Believe!! Reply with quote

Reply to the post, I am convinced that he does not bring anything positive.
He is of the mentality of those who lost and he reminds us what it must have been like under the old regime of colonialism. There are others like him and they have their game and would wish they could gain control to be in charge. To upset & create confusion. (Contentious) The same thing has happen in other countries in colonized Africa. My thoughts is give him the freedom to express his venom and his ill will. Knowing what we know just don't respond to his Bloggs. He will always remind us what we don't want in Cabo Verde.(Africa) He will be like a little puppy dog barking at the moon,wandering in his own (inordinateness) meaning disorderly archaic excessive reason.Deranged.

Deus is oft-forgiving,most merciful. Tuff love is the best kindness let it be a wind that passes by. Those of us who remain firm in the faith and the grace of Deus will keep all like that person and all others with complication and misunderstanding in a prayer of hope.
Make no comments.
We want great achievements the highest salvation.

Salvation means to protect from harm,liberation from ignorance or illusion.

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Vulkon di Fogo



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can express your opinion about this poll but don't forget to CAST YOUR VOTE. That's what the forum moderators will based on Sunday to take the action chosen in the above poll by the members of this forum.

Thank you.
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Kakau



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I, too, think St_antao should be permanently banned from this forum. He doesn't contribute anything positive to this forum. His views represent an unenlightened, that is, backward past. And his presence makes people less likely to come to the forum and opine on important issues. For the said reasons, he should definetely be permanently banned.


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St_antao



Joined: 11 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maica, as far as I remember I allways destroyed your AA propagandas. And actually, you are the one that brought me into these forums. when one day I found your posts afro-centrist posts in brazzil.com and cvmusic.com I start to spread the opposite ideas of yours. The difference between me and you is that nevertheless I am for a universal social wellfare paid by the usa to the rest of the world, that will contribute to even save and enrich africa...and I know that you are an afro-centrist...you are the one that brough me into all these forum Laughing
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Lu di Dulce



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm inclined to say give him a warning before banning him. I did not read all of his posts but I don't need to do so. Here's a guy who's able to contradict himself paragraph after paragraph, for self aggrandizement purposes. Having gone a few threads with him, I found out that it is virtually impossible to make ANY sense of what he writes.

One has the feeling that he's here just trying to make people mad, without regards for the truth or facts. His sole purpose seems to be the exact opposite of what this forum is: win a debate at any cost, and if he can't win it (remember we're not here to win anything but to share ideas), he'll declare himself the winner of the debate and go on the next one.

So to me, warning and then ban.
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St_antao



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never give up, and I accept contradictions in my point of views. For example, I don't think cv are blacks or should be absorbed into blacks, but I am not telling that cv shouldn't be friends or allies with blacks.
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Vulkon di Fogo



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lu di Dulce wrote:
I'm inclined to say give him a warning before banning him.
...So to me, warning and then ban.


If you read this topic: “The issue of Cape Verdean identity is still a taboo”
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You'll notice that he has given a warning about his behavior before. Specifically, he was asked to stop his childish acts on Thursday March 01, 2007. He actually was banned from the forum for a week but after a discussion among the moderators, we decided to reinstate him. However, almost a year after that, he didn't change.

Believe me, it's hard to go to the point that we have to decide either keeping or banning a member. But this guy is unbearable. However, for the fairness of this process, we'll add a third option that includes the choice of giving him a warning and then banning if he violates the code of conduct of the forum again. We'll also extend the deadline of the poll until the middle of next week: Wednesday February 13, 2008. So, more members have enough time to vote on it.

Thanks for your idea.
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Lu di Dulce



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I understand your feelings after reading some of his posts. I also had a little discussion with him and came away with the impression that the guy needs a psychiatrist, to say the least. When he runs out of arguments, he becomes suddenly candid and almost nice (probably trying to lure you into giving him infos on which he can then attack you) only to come back with some more BS.

However you need to understand that the poor boy lives in some of those banlieues or ghettos, where the police is constantly harassing them, call them niggers, bougnoule, an equivalent of nigger for Arabic people, (and by the way most people from Barlavento resemble Arabics) go back to your country, etc... When they try to find a job, they're turned away as only BBR's (blue, white, red, Bleu, Blanc, Rouge, France's banner colors) are accepted. When they try to go to a night club, they hear: members only or private or any other BS excuse.

So what you see here is someone who comes to vent his frustration. He'll say whatever it takes to stay in so he can aggravate people. He'll go on talking about how smart he is, he's writing some BS thesis, next he'll be Minister. Remember, he's that kind of guy who'll tell you that whites are superior to blacks, so he'd like to be seen as one of them.

I was in France last January (2007) and was disgusted with the conditions in which people like St Antao were living. It became even worse since Sarkozy became President. Kids like him have no future or at least do not see anything in front of them so they start misbehaving, vandalizing places, robbing people, etc...

Another think with this guy is that in France there are quite a few CVs from Senegal, who ABSOLUTELY despise Capeverdeans, think of themselves as the next big think and so on. He could be one of them or has been around them.

Again, in his mind, consciously or not, he's just doing to us what was done to him. So it's sweet revenge.
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St_antao



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lu di dulce,

I think you are insane, you extrapolate so much. That's funny, the kind of crazzy guys like you is what I am looking for in a forum. With you, if I say A, then you recreate all the alphabet.

I have been very nice with you when we were on msn, because there was no reason to have an argument, and then you started to be arrogant and intolerant and even aggressive...

Concerning racism, knowing that 99% of the problems in the world comes from nordic-whites, who put the mess everywhere they go. If I had to be racist one day, I would be racist against them.

Then on the location where I live, I allways lived in paris, city-center, in the east arrondissement which are less luxurious than the west arrondissement. And know I am travelling all around western europe. So I don't know what is the reality of these people (youngs and less young) who live in the suburbs. Nevertheless I have been amazed to find that although I was highly educated, highly polite, high everything...it was these guys who were closer to the truth, they have the solutions to the problems, and they are the ones who dare to face hidden-facism. I admire these young people who like in 1789 and 1848 are standing up. listen to this one
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I hope the revo**tion is for soon.
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St_antao



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nevertheless, you highlight very interesting facts
Lu di Dulce wrote:


... When they try to find a job, they're turned away as only BBR's (blue, white, red, Bleu, Blanc, Rouge, France's banner colors) are accepted. When they try to go to a night club, they hear: members only or private or any other BS excuse.


very close to the truth, that's why the revolution is on its way. I decide not to find a job in france exactly for the reasons lu wrote above, and I also decided to do my PhD in the UK rather than france because otherwise I would be stuck with a good degree and no jobs. I don't go to nightclubs but the fact is true.

Lu di Dulce wrote:

So what you see here is someone who comes to vent his frustration.


that is true that such a situation is frustrating but not only from me, I have friends who are in the same situation, and most of my friends are white french-nationals (but non-ethnic french). Even If it is a frustrating situation, I don't see the link with posting in a forum dealing with cape-verde? The situation in france and the situation in cape-verde are completly decoupled and my frustration about french situation which is shared by the majority of young people living in france has no link with cape-verde.

Lu di Dulce wrote:

It became even worse since Sarkozy became President. Kids like him have no future or at least do not see anything in front of them so they start misbehaving, vandalizing places, robbing people, etc...


All you write there is true and that's why the revolution is so near. I think that it is impossible now to avoid the revolution.

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Lu di Dulce wrote:

Another think with this guy is that in France there are quite a few CVs from Senegal, who ABSOLUTELY despise Capeverdeans, think of themselves as the next big think and so on. He could be one of them or has been around them.


???????

Lu di Dulce wrote:

Kids like him ...


I am probably older than you.

SO you wrote very interesting and true things about france (situation which by the way is expanding to all the population). So if you see a huge revolution in the next two or three years don't be surprised.
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Lu di Dulce



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, this is really the last one. Boy, to me arrogance is the opposite of humility, and you show an alarming lack of it. How many times did you tell us about the supposed (phantom) thesis you're writing, how anything & everything...
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although I was highly educated, highly polite, high highly anything
you were, how tall and heavy you are, the conferences and meetings around the world and many other bullsh**, which seem to be your specialty.

You said:
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I have been very nice with you when we were on msn, because there was no reason to have an argument, and then you started to be arrogant and intolerant and even aggressive...

Here's the truth: the very first thing you asked me was: so how come you speak French, then, you work part time in a supermarket and more insults. I replied first by saying that I was homeless, trying to show some sens of humor but then you became so obnoxious that I told you the truth. I have 2 small businesses. Where's the arrogance? Quite a few people on this forum know me personally and some do business with me. You became so enraged and obnoxious that I had to block you on MSN.

Care to know more real stuff? Then go to the Chambre des Metiers de Paris, and you'll find out that I was the owner of La Franco Capverdienne. Go the Chambre des Metiers du Loiret and you'll find out that I was the owner of Les impressions Magdunoises. Then stop by the Mairie of Olivet and you'll find out that I own a house there. By the way Olivet is a upper class suburb of Orleans.

Regarding your thesis: we all have projects, we just don't need to divulge them on this or other forums, but some of the guys on this one know about my projects. Now when you say you travel all over western Europe, make sure that Interpol is not after you. We all know what kind of business Parisians have with Rotterdam. All that being said, bah bricah ma meninos boh idode.
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St_antao



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't care if you are so rich...this doesn't prove that you have the right to be arrogant and prevent others to express their ideas.

The fact that I do a Phd proves that I am used somehow to use my brain to go trough theories. The focal point here is not to be smart or intelligent..lots of people are smart and intelligent and accumulate huge fortunes, but these people are not intellectuals, they used their brain in making money, while people like me use their brain in making theories and then test these theories to see if they are valid. So you see you are an intelligent person who does business and accumulates money...and I am an intellectual who does theories and accumulates ideas. We have very different jobs and everyone has its specialisation.

So according to my training, I should be more competent in making intellectual theories, where you and the other millionaires who come in this website you are are competent in making money...
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Lu di Dulce



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
The fact that I do a Phd


Pobre
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Voila, that's your kind of Phd
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St_antao



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lu di Dulce wrote:
Well, this is really the last one.


Laughing can we trust you anymore?
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G.Silva



Joined: 26 Jan 2008
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Salah, always spiritual my broda. I like that. Thanx for the kind words in such a "sad" moment (not for everyone, just to say so).

Lu di Dulce, one thing: Hoooooosa!
That's what my brother in law tells me, when things get ridicolous.
It's a Martin Lawrence quote in one of his movies. Bad Boys i guess, but i don't care wich one it is now.

St_Antão, how are you my friendo? Still causing mass disorder hamm? Even with ya head hanging from a poll, hammm?

Can you hear it Sintanton? Can you buddy? I can? It's saying....
tic tac, tic tac, tic tac, tic tac.....tic to the tac, tic tac, the tic to the tac.....

The Revolution won't be televised
The Revolution won't benefit "pretogueses"
The Revolution is gonna happen here, 13th this month
Ain't that a "B17Ch" ?
13th February, dude! Hehehehe. Guess 13 is gonna be ya lucky number!


Yeah write something back, that's what you gonna do after read this hamm!? Hehehehehe. Of course, you are predictable. Or you not gonna answer me just to CONTRADICT. I mean, just to keep your "line " of work(sorry, of thought).Huhuhuhuhuhuh.

P.S. - "Mean G" was here. He promises to never ever ever come back......unless Sintanton wants him to!

One two, "Mean G" is coming for you!
Three four, better not post more
five six, we all know ya tricks
Seven and eight, don't spread ya hate, hate, hate!
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CV2k



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't it amazing how St_Antao manage to divert everybody's attention from the major issues and get all of us going nuts about him? He hijacks every and any discussions and turn them into endless cat-and-dog battlegrounds.
This is precisely why he must go! Otherwise, as kakau had said a year ago, he will bring this forum down because no one likes to come here and spend his/her precious time reading his barbarities.
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Lu di Dulce



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

G,
Quote:
Hoooooosa!

I'm not a Martin Lawrence fan so I wouldn't know what that means, todavia se tiveres uma gramatica do pidjim cinematografico americano, um ta comprah.
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Lu di Dulce



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This is precisely why he must go. Otherwise, as kakau had said a year ago, he will bring this forum down because no one like to come here and spend their precious time reading his barbarities.


You've got my vote
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G.Silva



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That "hooosa" in this case means, don't let House nucca(aka shinta-unton)drive you around...hoooooosaaaa! Hehehehehehe.
But like CV2K said, let's focus on the main isht!
The issue is, kick our friendo out or not! I like the results of the election so far. As i see, some peeps here don't like "pretoguês" (and i guess, even the real portuguese don't!) LOL
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St_antao



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer to be a pretogues than a black. Why because If I am said that I am a black, then my Portuguese origins are denied, if I am said a pretogues, them my Portuguese origins are recognized and I am happy......I am f@#%&*g happy to be a of Portuguese origins, I cherish my Portuguese origins more than anything else (I like my African origins too but what makes me the most proud is my Portuguese origins)
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yeah write something back, that's what you gonna do after read this hamm!? Hehehehehe. Of course, you are predictable


Hahahahahahaha! Gotcha pretoguês!
And who cares? We all know who we are, unlike you. You let people tell you what you are. You don't know who you are. I said you are that and you are that, bottom line. I command you. you got no free will. just a washed mind. Enjoy ya last moments in this forum!
who's that one vote in the poll? I gues it's yours hamm! Hehehehehe.
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St_antao



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you never wonder why all the mixed race in the world, claim to be blacks? well, it is because their masters, the whites, don't want them to claim that they are white. (and there is no other reason for that). So every capeverdean who claims to be portuguese is defying the whites.
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G.Silva



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL! Hihihihihih.
Tic Tac, tic tac, tomorrow dude, tomorrow!
Holla at me tomorrow, please!

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Should St_Antao be banned from this forum?

Yes he must go- 87% [ 7 ]
No - 0% [ 0 ]
No, give him a warning - 12% [ 1 ]


The Poll speaks for the forum. I sugest you start a better campaign.
Where that one vote comes from? Hehehehe. Wish the administrators would tell it, then we would see only you vote in yaself!
You are, to us in this forum, what Zarko is to France mom ami!
I'm enjoying buggin' with ya. I want you to think about me and what i say while we kick ya @ out of this place, man. My "Sinta-Puppet", Good Bye!
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St_antao



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tic tac tic tac, this forum will be empty again. People put messages in this forum every 2 months and thanks to me there was more messages posted in 1 week, than in a whole year...All your hatred has been concentrated in me but as time will go you will see that everything I tell is very sensible, but as everything of value, it needs time to be digested...aligato, sayonara, datebayo!
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G.Silva



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is my last answer to ya, i'm sorry! Crushing you it's not fun no more, cause i feel you are really down now! It's normal i guess, for someone that got his head is hanging from a Poll! If you got so much to talk about that fills this forum, make your own website dumb! pfff... why botter with us.

Pouco na hormonia ê tcheu! Tcheu ne desordem, ê nada!
No te preferi estod em paz te dialogá do que estod te lê bos ideia estupida e inconcebivel. Ponto final!

Can you read criol, i mean capeverdean lingo. yeah, since you are portuguese, maybe you need a translation!

My last words will be some revelations about you.
Before Sintanton head rolls i want all people to know his age, that he never stated. He is a 29 years old person who makes people tha age ashamed. An example of a spoiled bred, literally. And finally ST_Antão's surname is Barbosa (who cares about his name anyway, hehehehe).
I see the "tic tac" is ticking in ya head hammmm, you even spelled it here, lol. Byeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

P.S - St_Antão's Date of Birth : April 29th 1978
hohohohohohohoho. You were supposed to be born in Cape Verde
as a "Pide Prince" hammm!? But daddy got thrown out by Cabral's
Revolution results (1975), hehehehehehe. Too bad. Should have
been born before 75 buddy. I'm sorry. Tomorrow is the DAYYYYYY!
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St_antao



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

actually my parents, took part in some kind of violent demostration against white portuguese people in that time, but now, with the knowledge and experience of life, they tell me that cabral made them go in the wrong direction, they feel more portuguese than african.
Cabral tried to destroy the real capeverdean culture and wanted to replace it with the guinean culture. This is not a surprise as far as he was borned in guinea-bissau. This dream of cabral put cv down.

the worst influence is the cabralista, people who want to brainwash the cv population with cabral's theories. Although cabral was a good and great man, is ideas were not good for cv as far as he asks cv to suicide and to embrace the guinean culture...so the cv have to reject the cabrals ideas and stay capeverdean (and come back to portugal).
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Vulkon di Fogo



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:02 am    Post subject: Re: Vote: Should St_Antao be banned from this forum? Reply with quote

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Should St_Antao be banned from this forum?
Yes he must go to clear the road to productive discussions
% [ 9 ]

No, he brings valuable contribution to this forum.
0% [ 0 ]

No, give him a warning and if he violates the code of conduct again, ban him forever.
10% [ 1 ]

Total Votes : 10


By the vote of the members of The People's Voice, the user St_Antao has been banned from this forum.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very good thing,

He will not come here anymore. Laughing

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